The Roman history is to the greatest extent FAKE. The famous Russian mathematican Anatoli Timofejewitsch Fomenko wrote many books about the wrong chronology and he proved, that Ceasars and dates were like copied.
My personal believe is, that our known history is totally wrong, and I claim, that Latin was one of the youngest languages meaning Lat(e) in(vented).
The Romans also crucified hundreds of slaves that participated in the revolt led by gladiator Spartacus. Hundreds of them lined the roads as a message to other would be rebellious slaves. This was long, long before Christ.
The slave rebellion by Spartacus took place in the Italian peninsula, not the desert. That's why it was so dangerous to the Romans. It took place in 71 BC, some 100 years before Christ was crucified. And slaves did the work hauling shit around back then, were they going to complain to much?
How about a comparable example of barbarism to make a point to your enemies, that we also have evidence for? When the Mongols seized Baghdad, then the jewel of the Mohammadian world, they killed hundreds of thousands of the city's residents.
Please. I think you're neglecting and minimizing the psychological effects and their importance in both warfare, and maintaining and empire by force in a very violent world. A world much more cruel and violent than ours today. It's the 1st century equivalent of CNN propaganda, and Vlad the Impaler, some 1400 years later utilized it quite effectively, eh?
Again, numerous contemporaneous historical accounts exist for Christ and his crucifixion. It's only a matter of faith whether he rose from the dead 3 days later.
You lost me with the wood. Why do they need fresh wood for every body? You dont need to build a new gallows for each hanging. Also, It is my understanding that nailing was not a common practice. 1000 crucifictions a month is 35 a day...stake em in the morning and remove them in the evening. Not unreasonable.
How did crucifixion kill?
Suffocation, loss of body fluids and multiple organ failure. It wasn't pleasant, but for those with a strong constitution take a deep breath and read on. "The weight of the body pulling down on the arms makes breathing extremely difficult," says Jeremy Ward, a physiologist at King's College London. In addition, the heart and lungs would stop working as blood drained through wounds. Crucifixion was invented by the Persians in 300-400BC and developed, during Roman times, into a punishment for the most serious of criminals. The upright wooden cross was the most common technique, and the time victims took to die would depend on how they were crucified.
Those accused of robbery were often tied to the crucifix and, because they could better support their weight with their arms, might survive for several days. One of the most severe methods of crucifixion put the arms straight above the victim. "That can [kill in] 10 minutes to half an hour - it's just impossible to breathe under those conditions," Ward says.
Someone nailed to a crucifix with their arms stretched out on either side could expect to live for no more than 24 hours. Seven-inch nails would be driven through the wrists so that the bones there could support the body's weight. The nail would sever the median nerve, which not only caused immense pain but would have paralysed the victim's hands.
The feet were nailed to the upright part of the crucifix, so that the knees were bent at around 45 degrees. To speed death, executioners would often break the legs of their victims to give no chance of using their thigh muscles as support. It was probably unnecessary, as their strength would not have lasted more than a few minutes even if they were unharmed.
Once the legs gave out, the weight would be transferred to the arms, gradually dragging the shoulders from their sockets. The elbows and wrists would follow a few minutes later; by now, the arms would be six or seven inches longer. The victim would have no choice but to bear his weight on his chest. He would immediately have trouble breathing as the weight caused the rib cage to lift up and force him into an almost perpetual state of inhalation.
Suffocation would usually follow, but the relief of death could also arrive in other ways. "The resultant lack of oxygen in the blood would cause damage to tissues and blood vessels, allowing fluid to diffuse out of the blood into tissues, including the lungs and the sac around the heart," says Ward.
This would make the lungs stiffer and make breathing even more difficult, and the pressure around the heart would impair its pumping.
The Roman history is to the greatest extent FAKE. The famous Russian mathematican Anatoli Timofejewitsch Fomenko wrote many books about the wrong chronology and he proved, that Ceasars and dates were like copied. My personal believe is, that our known history is totally wrong, and I claim, that Latin was one of the youngest languages meaning Lat(e) in(vented).
The Romans also crucified hundreds of slaves that participated in the revolt led by gladiator Spartacus. Hundreds of them lined the roads as a message to other would be rebellious slaves. This was long, long before Christ.
The slave rebellion by Spartacus took place in the Italian peninsula, not the desert. That's why it was so dangerous to the Romans. It took place in 71 BC, some 100 years before Christ was crucified. And slaves did the work hauling shit around back then, were they going to complain to much?
How about a comparable example of barbarism to make a point to your enemies, that we also have evidence for? When the Mongols seized Baghdad, then the jewel of the Mohammadian world, they killed hundreds of thousands of the city's residents.
Let's go even further back, the Assyrians during their empire. They would skin alive and impale thousands of people to make a point to their enemies. https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/assyrians-torture-60fabb7a9642
We know that these things happened through numerous contemporaneous accounts, from both sides of the fighting. Why would the Romans be any different?
I think your goal is to undermine Christianity. This is a terrible way to do it because it's so ahistorical and poorly researched.
Please. I think you're neglecting and minimizing the psychological effects and their importance in both warfare, and maintaining and empire by force in a very violent world. A world much more cruel and violent than ours today. It's the 1st century equivalent of CNN propaganda, and Vlad the Impaler, some 1400 years later utilized it quite effectively, eh?
Again, numerous contemporaneous historical accounts exist for Christ and his crucifixion. It's only a matter of faith whether he rose from the dead 3 days later.
You lost me with the wood. Why do they need fresh wood for every body? You dont need to build a new gallows for each hanging. Also, It is my understanding that nailing was not a common practice. 1000 crucifictions a month is 35 a day...stake em in the morning and remove them in the evening. Not unreasonable.
How did crucifixion kill?
Suffocation, loss of body fluids and multiple organ failure. It wasn't pleasant, but for those with a strong constitution take a deep breath and read on. "The weight of the body pulling down on the arms makes breathing extremely difficult," says Jeremy Ward, a physiologist at King's College London. In addition, the heart and lungs would stop working as blood drained through wounds. Crucifixion was invented by the Persians in 300-400BC and developed, during Roman times, into a punishment for the most serious of criminals. The upright wooden cross was the most common technique, and the time victims took to die would depend on how they were crucified.
Those accused of robbery were often tied to the crucifix and, because they could better support their weight with their arms, might survive for several days. One of the most severe methods of crucifixion put the arms straight above the victim. "That can [kill in] 10 minutes to half an hour - it's just impossible to breathe under those conditions," Ward says.
Someone nailed to a crucifix with their arms stretched out on either side could expect to live for no more than 24 hours. Seven-inch nails would be driven through the wrists so that the bones there could support the body's weight. The nail would sever the median nerve, which not only caused immense pain but would have paralysed the victim's hands.
The feet were nailed to the upright part of the crucifix, so that the knees were bent at around 45 degrees. To speed death, executioners would often break the legs of their victims to give no chance of using their thigh muscles as support. It was probably unnecessary, as their strength would not have lasted more than a few minutes even if they were unharmed.
Once the legs gave out, the weight would be transferred to the arms, gradually dragging the shoulders from their sockets. The elbows and wrists would follow a few minutes later; by now, the arms would be six or seven inches longer. The victim would have no choice but to bear his weight on his chest. He would immediately have trouble breathing as the weight caused the rib cage to lift up and force him into an almost perpetual state of inhalation.
Suffocation would usually follow, but the relief of death could also arrive in other ways. "The resultant lack of oxygen in the blood would cause damage to tissues and blood vessels, allowing fluid to diffuse out of the blood into tissues, including the lungs and the sac around the heart," says Ward.
This would make the lungs stiffer and make breathing even more difficult, and the pressure around the heart would impair its pumping.
The Colosseum is in Rome and was build decades after Jesus died. It was used for Gladiatorial battles and mock naval battles.
Maybe you should first educate yourself a bit?
Jesus wasn't a gladiator.
There was no amphitheatre in Jerusalem at Jesus' time. That was build in the 2nd century.
Damnatio ad bestias wasn't a thing in the Roman provinces in the Levant. It was really expensive to do that.
Again, you might first educate yourself a bit before drawing conclusions about things you don't know anything about.
You are aware that no contemporary Roman ever claimed that Jesus was crucified by them?
So, what account exactly are you referring to?