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Troop leader seems to throw challenge to Biden during parade review (www.youtube.com)
posted 4 years ago by BlackDay2020 4 years ago by BlackDay2020 +7 / -2
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– BlackDay2020 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes you are correct. It happened at Obama's too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_tnlx4QEyY Can't see it at Trump's due to camera angle probably.

However, there were no dropped hats for Trump or Obama. That's just for Biden. See comments to axo for possible interpretations.

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– SuperKarateMonkey 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

20mph winds with 28mph gusts for Biden's inauguration

No wind with 5mph gusts for Trump's inauguration

13mph winds with no gusts for Obama's second inauguration

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– BlackDay2020 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I almost agreed with you (thanks for research). But....

At 4:03 you can see someone remove their hat. How to explain that? That's not from the wind.

EDIT: Nah, it's the wind. I saw it in HD. His hand doesn't move, and the wind gust is pretty strong from the way the flag is waving at that exact moment.

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– BlackDay2020 [S] 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

Watch at 3:30 troop leader in old uniform removes hat and throws challenge to Biden (EDIT: This is incorrect. That happened at Obama's troop review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_tnlx4QEyY Most likely you can't see it in the Trump video due to the angle). At 5:00 you can see 7 discarded hats (and there is one further ahead at 5:08). Dropped hats only happened to Biden and not to Trump or Obama.

I'm pretty sure it's not protocol to throw hats in the middle of parade road. See at 4:03 you can see random soldiers without hat, and can even see another removing his hat. Pretty sure it's not protocol to remove hat during marching, long after passing the President.

This did not happen at Trump's troop review here (5:29:25):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nieiu8tmLIM

I'm not American so what does this mean? If soldiers did it in their individual capacity, then it doesn't mean anything more than their individual disgust? I already debunked a couple of posts about movie set Oval Office, but this one and the absence of 21 gun salute are real. Watch out for chaotic disinformation. Both could mean military doesn't like Biden (if done in individual capacity), or something more conspiratorial.

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– axolotl_peyotl 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

throws challenge to Biden.

Can you expand on this? Is that an unusual gesture in this context? It certainly looks that way. I remember watching live and seeing the scramble to pick up a hat...I thought it was just one but no that's a LOT. I saw someone say "it was windy" but there's literally zero chance "wind" did that.

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– BlackDay2020 [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

They say it's like throwing down the gauntlet. I'm not from the West so not familiar with customs. Do you have that in America?

I found another: the phrase "throw your hat into the (boxing) ring" comes from actually throwing down your hat to challenge someone to a bout:

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/throw-your-hat-into-the-ring.html

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