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FBI investigator on the bomb used in Nashville: "We’ve never seen an improvised thermobaric device before in this country or any country" -- “It’s very difficult to get the timing down" -- “He couldn’t have done it the first time and made it work. There had to be a test area” (archive.is)
posted 4 years ago by STAX 4 years ago by STAX +52 / -3
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– illiac-iv 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Probably bullshit. I've never seen a thermobaric bomb or damage, but

1.) a thermobaric bomb's purpose is to burn people and to burn oxygen for suffocating people. Harming people was clearly a no-no here.

2.) a thermobaric bomb must explode quickly for dispersing the fuel over a large space, but does not do as much damage as conventional explosives. Usually dropped from airplanes during raids. Why all the effort for something inappropriate?

3.) at least one explosion came from inside the AT&T building, as evidenced by videos and square manhole damage. A thermobaric bomb is for scorching dug-in people outdoors.

The relatively little damage (in the relatively confined space of the street) with all the soot is more or less like that in the oaklahoma city bombing and the oslo bombing, both of which were fertilizer bombs, only much bigger. Armyfags or naysayer who know better are welcome here. I'm a larp and want to know better, too.

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– deleted 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0
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– newuserfromreddit 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, I was just about to say this. Thermobaric weapons consume oxygen, which makes them good for suffocation in tunnels, but they also generate a sustained blast wave, which makes them good for busting fortifications.

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– illiac-iv 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What is the fuel? I was parroting what I remember (perhaps incorrectly) war nerd Gary Brecher said, but he rarely talked about technical details.

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– illiac-iv 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

many bunker buster bombs are thermobaric.

k, did not know

FBI is inventing a way for there to be a bomb when there is no evidence of a bomb. FBI: "Bomber left the stove on and then lit a match at the right moment"... Bull shit.

Good point.

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– SR-71A_Blackbird 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Bunker buster bombs are not thermobaric. Typically they are filled with high explosive.

Also, if this was a fuel air bomb it points to a state actor. Regular people don't have the money to do the testing required for such devices.

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– illiac-iv 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

THX. That's the point the FBI wants to drive home here, but it is strange that they are somewhat sabotaging the official narrative. As another poster pointed out, they might want to smear the military. I'm not surprised, because Nashville was not done by a disgruntled boomer. The question is whether the perps wanted to blow up the data center or cut communication. A connection to election fraud is not far-fetched. What's more, there were those anon-pics before and after shit was going down, what would support that the datacenter was targeted.

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– SR-71A_Blackbird 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

No one just happens to blow up a critical data center.

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– illiac-iv 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yes. And boomers don't know where to place a bomb to make so much damage. Besides, it's possible that connections were deliberately SWITCHED off or DDoSed or something. We are in a war, fought with smoke and mirrors. Normies think for as long as there are no human wave attacks with uniforms and goose-stepping, it's not a war. Problem is, with such a war being futile, there can never be peace again.

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– SR-71A_Blackbird 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I think the best defense in a war of this kind is sunshine. As long as the creeps stay in the shadows they can operate. When people are aware of their existence and goals it deminishes their power significantly.

The problem is that people don't believe what should be obvious because they want to believe they are safe from anything bad. In reality, their very refusal to see is what puts them in danger.

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– Scroon 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Respectfully, this isn't how or why thermobarics work. A thermobaric bomb has fuel and possibly oxidizer dispersed in the air, and this cloud is then ignited creating an explosion.

It's effective in bunkers because the explosion is dispersed in all the "nooks and crannies" instead of radiating out from a central point. The burning up the oxygen is part of what makes it effective in bunkers...you don't have to collapse or burn the whole thing, you can just smother the personnel.

I said in the other comment they could be using the thermobsric explanation to cover for a bomb planted in the interior.

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– SR-71A_Blackbird 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I have thought that is why the bomb went off in the morning at dawn. It was timed for the air to be as still as possible. A strong wind would disperse the fuel and render the bomb much less effective.

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– illiac-iv 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

A thermobaric bomb has fuel and possibly oxidizer dispersed in the air, and this cloud is then ignited creating an explosion.

This is how I understood it, but understood "dug in" as "trenches"

smother the personnel.

They obviously tried to avoid casualties by audio with warnings, so that can't be a motive here.

I said in the other comment they could be using the thermobsric explanation to cover for a bomb planted in the interior.

That's a good comment, but it ruins the narrative that a state actor was at work.

Thanks for respect for a larp!

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– Scroon 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

If that's true, then they could be using the thermobaric explanation as a cover for why the blast came from within the building...aerosol dispersed inside, then ignited from outside. Kind bullshit if that's what they're trying to make us think.

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– SR-71A_Blackbird 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The way thermobaric bombs work is initially there is a push as the fuel burns in the air. The heated air creates a shockwave as the air expands. As the air cools it creates a vacuum and air rushes back into that void, which could explain why the building looks as if the explosion happened inside. The initial shockwave breaks the exterior structure, and the subsequent vacuum sucks the debris out toward the street.

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– illiac-iv 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks for that extra clue; (I did put that fact into the list above)

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– illiac-iv 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You are right; sharper eyes than t. poster. And I tried. Hard.

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– thughes 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It was an EMP bomb.

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– DRKMSTR 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Psh, no EMP.

Shaped charge (anyone can copy the google-able designs) and basic explosive compound that anyone can make / terrorists make all the time overseas. Simple ingredients, super dangerous. Ignited with an Arduino / micro-controller. Dude was already dead before the bomb went off, likely pills (if they didn't find a molten gun).

Or (Puts on tinfoil hat)

  1. He used agency provided explosive compounds
  2. He used agency provided equipment, timing equipment, and pre-made shaped charge forms (thank you spooks)
  3. And they bypassed all that by having a missile skim the building across the way and blow up right inside the RV.
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– bbxx 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Sounds like a bunch of bullshit. McVeigh used a thermobaric device. Hell, just add some extra reactive fuel like powdered aluminum to any bomb and you have a thermobaric device.

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– letrain 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well considering his gf warned the fbi a year ago... probably. Isn't there a chance he showed up there to protest or was coaxed there to "sabotage" then was murdered (gun shots?) And is just a patsy?

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– ikuyas 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

like WTC?

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– BidensBasementBidet1 -9 points 4 years ago +2 / -11

I always said that they would come for the military next. The want all the money going to them.

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– BidensBasementBidet1 -11 points 4 years ago +1 / -12

No one cares about the military. They simply are scared. The military is ignorant. They may do what they want to happen.

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– binklehoya 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

lol. you not only forgot to switch accounts, you didn't actually reply to your own comment

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– BidensBasementBidet1 -18 points 4 years ago +2 / -20

Bye shill

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– STAX [S] 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I too hate clues about an obvious false flag bombing.

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– illiac-iv 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Is he arguing with himself? What's going on?

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– STAX [S] 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Mental illness, I assume.

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– illiac-iv 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Perhaps a buggy bot amplifier.

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