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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

This called for an attack upon Christianity; the slow but sure disintegration of industrial nation states; the destruction of hundreds of millions of people, referred to by the Committee of 300 as "surplus population, " and the removal of any leader who dared to stand in the way of the Committee's global planning to reach the foregoing objectives.

No, they use Christianity.

But the rest of this, I pretty much agree with, except there is no Committee of 300. Have you read "The End of Work" by Jeremy Rifkin?

He basically argued that with automation and so-called economies of scale, there would be an excess population that capitalism couldn't employ, would just become a drag on capitalism. And we saw how with automation and the development of labor sources able to produce goods much more cheaply than American workers (notably China, for one), capitalists did just abandon the American working class. Both Republicans and Democrats did their best to smooth the way for corporations to move their operations to China. Even the Trumpy Bear doll is made in China. But even Chinese workers can be replaced with machines. If machines can make everything, what do they need workers for? Where are people going to work?

That's a problem for capitalism. How will capitalism deal with this?

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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Committee of 300 long ago decreed that there shall be a smaller--much smaller--and better world, that is, their idea of what constitutes a better world.

There is no evidence that the "Committee of 300" exists. There is no such decree. In words of Michael Flynn, "there is no plan." There are interests. There are powerful interests that meet in groups, mostly right out in the open and plan on how they want to manage the world to their enrichment and benefit. It's not a secret. It's all right out there in the open. But when they get you to believe in these conspiracies, you go looking for these non-existent groups. Meanwhile, both parties, the GOP and the Democrats do the work of raping the poor and enriching the rich right out in the open. And yet tons of people on here are all for it.

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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Consider this:

Stop for a moment and consider how President Bush ordered the brutal slaying of 150,000 Iraqi troops, in a convoy of military vehicles carrying white flags, on their way back to Iraq under Geneva Convention rules of agreed disengagement and with-drawal. Imagine the horror of the Iraqi troops when, in spite of waving their white flags, they were mowed down by American aircraft. In another part of the front, 12,000 Iraqi soldiers were buried alive in trenches they occupied. Is that not MONSTROUS in the truest sense of the word? From where did President Bush get his orders to act in this MONSTROUS fashion? He got them from the Royal Institute for International Affairs (RIIA) who received its mandate from the Committee of 300, also known as the "Olympians."

I agree with everything up to that last sentence. What is the evidence that Bush followed an order from the Royal Institute for International Affairs? We'll see. At this point, this is an assertion without substantiation. Yes, Bush did exactly what Coleman says. It was horrifying at the time. I remember thousands of Americans cheering this slaughter. But I agree with Coleman and did back then (did you?). However, I see no reason to believe Bush didn't just order this on his own. Why believe he took orders from anybody?

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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can't imagine him praising China. Do you have a link for that? What do you think about China's suppression of Muslims?

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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

These agent-informers are led and controlled by a group of homosexuals who are wellliked and well-respected by political and religious conservatives all across the United States. Their program of calumny, lies and hatred, disinformation about my work, even lately attributing it to other writers, contin-ues unabated but it has not had the desired effect. I shall carry on with my task until I have finally ripped off the mask of the entire secret upper-level parallel government that runs Britain and the U.S. This book is a part of that ongoing effort.

Well....I don't know about this. We'll see what evidence he presents.

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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

And and look what Dr. John B. Coleman says right here:

. I pursued my investigations, pressing on in the face of severe risks, attacks on myself and my wife, financial losses, continual harassment, threats and calumny, all part of a carefully-crafted and orchestrated program to discredit me, run by government agents and informers, embedded in the so-called Christian rightwing, the "Identity Movement" and rightwing "patriotic" groups. These agents operated, and still operate, under cover of strong and fearless outspoken opposition to Judaism their main enemy, they would have us believe.

It is exactly this "Identity Movement" and rightwing "patriotic" groups that I warned about in my OP. That's what I'm talking about. Again: Think about this: why would Tucker Carlson extol the virtues of a dictator wannabe in Hungary? Put that together with what John Coleman says right here. It is exactly what I'm saying. Sure, beware of the left, but the left is divided and weak. Pathetic. The threat is coming from people want to take away our freedoms. I think you are falling for them. You think I am, but here in the source you asked me to read, right in the introduction, the author says he was attacked by the "so-called Christian rightwing."

Think about that. Please.

I'm reading what you asked me to read.

EDIT: Think about that Proud Boy guy who was also an informant. The "Deep State" is infiltrated in the rightwing, probably more so than the left because no one likes or believes the left anyway.

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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was thoroughly familiar with all of the well known secret societies such as the Royal Institute for International Affairs (RIIA), the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderbergers, Trilaterals, the Zionists, Freemasonry, BolshevismRosicrucianism and all of the spinoffs of these secret societies.

We already have a problem. Council of Foreign Relations isn't a secret society.

The Bilderbergers are not a secret society. In fact, they openly promote free market capitalism. Are they part of the power elite? Absolutely, but what they do, they do in the open, not in secret. Are their ideas and thoughts reflected in our mainstream media? Absolutely (watch the Manufacturing Consent video, I posted). In fact, many of the actual journalists (Chris Cuomo, Anderson Cooper, Maggie Haberman, just for some examples) are directly part of the power elite that shape mainstream beliefs. The problem here is that John Coleman acts like this is some kind of secret. It's not.

Trilaterals, supposedly the Trilateral Commission, is not a secret organization. It publishes its membership lists, it regularly publishes studies and what not. Is it part of the Power Elite? Absolutely. Is it on our side? Of course not.

Anyway, you get the picture. He then throws in Bolsheviks who are the exact opposite of Trilaterals and Bilderbergs who work to maintain a capitalist system that makes the wealthy insanely wealthy and the rest of us just scraping by. At least, I'm just scraping by.

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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ok, so my first question is this:

Who is Dr. John Coleman? How do I confirm he is who he says he is? I can't take him seriously without that information. I, of course, can read what he says and anything he has evidence for, then great. But if this is based on his own observations and I can't independently verify what he asserts, then it isn't worth anything.

We'll see.

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OriginalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

OP, what do you think about the statement by the former CIA director, William Casey, when he said:

"We will know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is wrong."

Confirmed here: https://newspunch.com/cia-disinfo-program-is-complete-they-actually-said-this/

I'm not sure, from what I said above, would make you think I would have any doubts at all about this. Of course I believe the CIA has waged disinformation against all of us. Not just me and what I believe, but also you and what you believe.

Ok, so now that you know the CIA has waged a disinformation operation against you, that their intent was to ensure what you believe is entirely wrong, do you think that your rejection of these conspiracies is in line with mainstream thought?

Of course, as I said, I have never questioned that the CIA enages in disinformation. If everything the "American public believes is wrong," then how do you know what you believe isn't wrong?

Think about this. Don't just knee jerk oppose what I am saying. Why would Tucker Carlson extol the virtues of an authoritarian leaning Hungarian government? Why would he hold it up as an example for us to follow? Political freedom in Hungary does not exist. Think carefully about this. Sure, maybe I'm duped. But how do you know for sure that you aren't duped? What makes you think that what I believe is entirely wrong, but what you believe is true?

How do we find the truth?

As far as the conspiracies I mentioned, some I have looked extensively at evidence, some I have not. I'm willing to accept I'm wrong on anything for which evidence can be presented. I'm not even sure where the mainstream is on most of them. In the ones that I find interesting or intriguing, I track down the evidence myself.

Of course it is. Guess what buddy? Youve been lied to and you believe the lies and now youre here trying to spread your lies, but probably not intentionally, I will give you that.

I've been lied to and you've been lied to. How do you know that the things I spread are lies and what you spread is truth? And specifically, what lie have I spread?

Can I tell you something? I'm willing to bet that if you're old enough to have had a position that you supported George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq, which was based on lies, as we know now. I did not. I did not believe the New York Times or CNN or any of the lying liberal media that supported the invasion of Iraq. I have an arrest record to prove my position because I was strenuously opposed to that action. Even at that time what I knew is that once broken, there was no acceptable solution to the internal politics of Iraq. On the one hand, the US line was that Saddam was a bad guy and had to be taken out and replaced with a friendly democratic state. But anyone who took the time to see would have known that 2/3 of the country was Shia with ties to Iran. There was no solution that could end with a democratically elected government friendly to the USA.

I didn't fall for the misinformation then. Did you? If you did then, how do you know you aren't now?

How do the disinform? Operation mocking bird. Look it up.

How do you know about "Operation Mockingbird?" Don't tell me to look up, you tell me what your sources are. You tell me what specific lies Operation Mockingbird was designed to spread. Tell me and where that information comes from.

Do I think there is disinformation? Yes, I do. It is spread to support the ruling elite and the status quo. But i have not seen any evidence to support the existence of "Operation Mockingbird." They don't need an operation like that. Do you know about Manufacturing Consent? [Caveat: that summary of ideas in MC was posted by Al Jazeera. But it's 4 minutes, watch it and see if you agree.]] That book tells you everything you need to know about how the mainstream media manipulates popular opinion.

You have elected to believe the lies of the CIA so that you look no further into the realities of the world, who rules it, how they rule it and what the intend to do to you.

No, in fact I haven't. You haven't demonstrated at all that this is the case.

https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/4A/4A92FD2FB4DAE3F773DB0B7742CF0F65_Coleman.-.CONSPIRATORS.HIERARCHY.-.THE.STORY.OF.THE.COMMITTEE.OF.300.R.pdf

The CIA was kind enough to post this book on their website. It was not written by the CIA, but they have provided it for free to read. You can also buy the book yourself. The book will detail everything you are experiencing right now and gives you a heads up to what they have in store for you.

I'm trying to download it. I have done extensive reading on the crimes of the CIA.

However, everyone reading this knows you wont read it and youll chose to stay stupid, misinformed and ignorant.

I'll look at it, to be sure. I will also discuss it with you if you like.

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