I don't agree. I was convinced Trump is the good guy. Now I don't know. Good propaganda is so good you never see it coming, for both left and right. Another example: Liberals once stood for freedom. How did they not see the subversion of their ideology? What is that if not sophistication?

Pretty sure they have ways of misleading conspiracy theorists too. Hide things just enough to find them with a lot of effort, like Q.

You'd need a pretty good understanding of human psychology to pull this off. Lots of R&D into subversion and manipulation. Along with lots of foresight in planning so far ahead.

EDIT: This is not to demoralize anyone. I personally believe in following one's dharma regardless of the outcome. So it doesn't matter to me what we're up against.

I don't agree. I was convinced Trump is the good guy. Now I don't know. Good propaganda is so good you never see it coming, for both left and right. Another example: Liberals once stood for freedom. How did they not see the subversion of their ideology? What is that if not sophistication?

Pretty sure they have ways of misleading conspiracy theorists too. Hide things just enough to find them with a lot of effort, like Q.

You'd need a pretty good understanding of human psychology to pull this off. Lots of R&D into subversion and manipulation. Along with lots of foresight in planning so far ahead.

EDIT: This is not to demoralize anyone. I personally believe in following one's dharma regardless of the outcome. So it doesn't matter to me what we're up against.