Okay, folks, the Catholic Church has been around in one form or another for 2,000 years. Saying "it's toast" or going away is historically ignorant, when the Church has suffered worse crises than Francis' stupidity. People were saying "the Church is toast" when Napoleon locked up the pope for 4 years in France, or the Protestant Reformation, or the Arian Heresy, etc. etc..

Francis has a mixed record on orthodoxy. He confirmed that priests cannot bless same sex unions (though the Germans are still doing it), and that anyone who tries to make a woman priest is automatically excommunicated.

This topic has been covered extensively in consume.win, and not conspiracies.win.

Now, will Catholic Church membership continue to decline? Depends on where and who we are talking about. Frankly, I'd rather have the Church 1/2 its size but filled with those who are trad, than a huge ecumenical modernist monster.

Okay, folks, the Catholic Church has been around in one form or another for 2,000 years. Saying "it's toast" or going away is historically ignorant, when the Church has suffered worse crises than Francis' stupidity. People were saying "the Church is toast" when Napoleon locked up the pope for 4 years in France, or the Protestant Reformation, or the Arian Heresy, etc. etc..

Francis has a mixed record on orthodoxy. He confirmed that priests cannot bless same sex unions (though the Germans are still doing it), and that anyone who tries to make a woman priest is automatically excommunicated.

This topic has been covered extensively in consume.win, and not conspiracies.win.

Now, will Catholic Church membership continue to decline? Depends on where and who we are talking about. Frankly, I'd rather have the Church 1/2 it's size but filled with those who are trad, than a huge ecumenical modernist monster.