Not a big fan of Attali (this is an understatement) but that's a well-known fake (even if the guy, in the original quote from this 1981 book, does actually advocate in some measure some "dose" of euthanasia, but in his logic that is more in term of personal liberty, while condemning it when/if imposed by some government decision) :
Robot-Translation for the non-fluent-in-French inquiring minds:
Beware of this false quote from Jacques Attali on the euthanasia of seniors
Marine Laouchez , AFP France
A quote attributed to Jacques Attali, former political adviser to François Mitterrand, in which he seems to support the euthanasia of seniors, is circulating on the internet. Shared several hundred times, supposedly taken from a book of interviews published in 1981, it was not pronounced by the economist, who denounced to AFP a text "totally invented" and does not appear in the work in question. Jacques Attali has been attacked several times for his alleged position on the euthanasia of the elderly, and has won defamation cases. The book, titled "The Future of Life", offered reflections on how society approaches the issue of end of life.
"In the future it will be a question of finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old people, because as soon as they pass 60-65 years, man lives longer than he produces and it costs dearly. the company " . Thus begins a long quote, which this Facebook post , shared nearly 400 times since April 8, 2021, attributes to Jacques Attali, former adviser to President François Mitterrand. This publication also mentions "the weakest" and "the stupidest" , which must be "got rid of" , "by making them believe that it is for their good" . Facebook screenshot taken on 04/13/2021, crossed out
It also slips a reference to the current health situation, in remarks which according to her would be taken from the book "The future of life" published in 1981: "We will find something or will cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the big, it doesn't matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated. We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment which will be the solution. "
However, AFP did not find any trace of this quote in the pages it consulted. The publisher, Seghers, sent a copy of the passage from the book devoted to the interview with Jacques Attali.
[Copy of the pages taken from the book "The future of life"]
These extracts had already been highlighted by our colleagues at Checknews who had already looked into the then decontextualized comments on lengthening of life and euthanasia in 2018. The quote appeared around the same date on different forums ( 1 , 2 , or even in the comments on the book sold on the Amazon platform, dated April 8, 2021). This text is totally invented. It is even further from reality than the previous defamatory text. It is in no way close to the initial text. It is like saying that I will have written Mein Kampf" , reacted Jacque Attali, contacted on April 12 by AFP Factuel. In the book, taken from interviews with Michel Salomon, Jacques Attali answers the question "Is it possible and desirable to live 120 years ...?" The only similarities with the Facebook post found are two short extracts: "But as soon as one passes 60/65 years, man lives longer than he produces and it is then expensive for society" , he says. He also explains: "Indeed from the point of view of society, it is much preferable that the human machine stops abruptly rather than that it does not deteriorate gradually" .
Jacques Attali is then in the process of putting forward his point of view on the way, according to him, in which society approaches the question of the place of seniors and the extension of life expectancy.
He explains in particular: "Hence I believe that in the very logic of industrial society, the objective will no longer be to extend life expectancy, but to ensure that within a determined lifespan, man lives as well as possible but in such a way that health expenses will be as low as possible in terms of costs for the community. "
"As always, I am reproached here for wishing for what I am only predicting and denouncing. The new version is just a delusional extension of the false quotation that I had condemned for defamation in 1983", commented Jacques Attali in his response to AFP.
In the book, he concludes: "Euthanasia will be one of the essential instruments of our future societies in all cases. In a socialist logic, to begin with, the problem arises as follows: socialist logic is freedom and fundamental freedom is suicide; consequently, the right to direct or indirect suicide is therefore an absolute value in this type of society. life when it is too unbearable or economically too costly, will emerge and will be common practice. I therefore think that euthanasia, whether a value of freedom or a commodity, will be one of the rules of future society . " The release of the book was followed by the same type of accusations on the euthanasia of the over 65s. Looking in the AFP archives, we come across a dispatch from January 1984, in which it is reported that the Paris Court of Appeal has condemned members of the association of the National Union of Social Insureds for defamation. questioned Mr. Attali by suggesting that he advocated "the genocide of the old".
[The first three paragraphs of the AFP dispatch (AFP archives screenshot taken on 04/13/2021)]
The judgment, quoted in the dispatch, specifies that "during a dense and passionate dialogue on the faces of the future and the prospects of medicine", Mr. Attali gives his "point of view" and "prepares the spirits important or serious contingencies ".
The appearance of this false quote from Jacque Attali was concomitant with the debate in the National Assembly on a bill opening a right "to a free and chosen end of life", carried by the deputy Olivier Falorni. The debate on euthanasia was held on April 9 in a controversial atmosphere without succeeding, despite broad support, to vote on a complete text for lack of time in the face of thousands of amendments.
Previous quotes falsely attributed to Jacques Attali have already been verified by AFP Factuel: one on the coronavirus, the other on the control of the press.
Edit of 04/14/2021: update after receipt of a copy of the passage from the book devoted to the interview with Jacques Attali provided by the publishing house **
I'm far from being a fan of Attali (and this is an understatement) but that's a well-known fake (even if the guy, in the original quote from this 1981 book, does actually advocate in some measure some "dose" of euthanasia, but in his logic that is more in term of personal liberty, while condemning it when/if imposed by some government decision) :
Robot-Translation for the non-fluent-in-French inquiring minds:
Beware of this false quote from Jacques Attali on the euthanasia of seniors
Marine Laouchez , AFP France
A quote attributed to Jacques Attali, former political adviser to François Mitterrand, in which he seems to support the euthanasia of seniors, is circulating on the internet. Shared several hundred times, supposedly taken from a book of interviews published in 1981, it was not pronounced by the economist, who denounced to AFP a text "totally invented" and does not appear in the work in question. Jacques Attali has been attacked several times for his alleged position on the euthanasia of the elderly, and has won defamation cases. The book, titled "The Future of Life", offered reflections on how society approaches the issue of end of life.
"In the future it will be a question of finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old people, because as soon as they pass 60-65 years, man lives longer than he produces and it costs dearly. the company " . Thus begins a long quote, which this Facebook post , shared nearly 400 times since April 8, 2021, attributes to Jacques Attali, former adviser to President François Mitterrand. This publication also mentions "the weakest" and "the stupidest" , which must be "got rid of" , "by making them believe that it is for their good" . Facebook screenshot taken on 04/13/2021, crossed out
It also slips a reference to the current health situation, in remarks which according to her would be taken from the book "The future of life" published in 1981: "We will find something or will cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the big, it doesn't matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated. We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment which will be the solution. "
However, AFP did not find any trace of this quote in the pages it consulted. The publisher, Seghers, sent a copy of the passage from the book devoted to the interview with Jacques Attali.
[Copy of the pages taken from the book "The future of life"]
These extracts had already been highlighted by our colleagues at Checknews who had already looked into the then decontextualized comments on lengthening of life and euthanasia in 2018. The quote appeared around the same date on different forums ( 1 , 2 , or even in the comments on the book sold on the Amazon platform, dated April 8, 2021). This text is totally invented. It is even further from reality than the previous defamatory text. It is in no way close to the initial text. It is like saying that I will have written Mein Kampf" , reacted Jacque Attali, contacted on April 12 by AFP Factuel. In the book, taken from interviews with Michel Salomon, Jacques Attali answers the question "Is it possible and desirable to live 120 years ...?" The only similarities with the Facebook post found are two short extracts: "But as soon as one passes 60/65 years, man lives longer than he produces and it is then expensive for society" , he says. He also explains: "Indeed from the point of view of society, it is much preferable that the human machine stops abruptly rather than that it does not deteriorate gradually" .
Jacques Attali is then in the process of putting forward his point of view on the way, according to him, in which society approaches the question of the place of seniors and the extension of life expectancy.
He explains in particular: "Hence I believe that in the very logic of industrial society, the objective will no longer be to extend life expectancy, but to ensure that within a determined lifespan, man lives as well as possible but in such a way that health expenses will be as low as possible in terms of costs for the community. "
"As always, I am reproached here for wishing for what I am only predicting and denouncing. The new version is just a delusional extension of the false quotation that I had condemned for defamation in 1983", commented Jacques Attali in his response to AFP.
In the book, he concludes: "Euthanasia will be one of the essential instruments of our future societies in all cases. In a socialist logic, to begin with, the problem arises as follows: socialist logic is freedom and fundamental freedom is suicide; consequently, the right to direct or indirect suicide is therefore an absolute value in this type of society. life when it is too unbearable or economically too costly, will emerge and will be common practice. I therefore think that euthanasia, whether a value of freedom or a commodity, will be one of the rules of future society . " The release of the book was followed by the same type of accusations on the euthanasia of the over 65s. Looking in the AFP archives, we come across a dispatch from January 1984, in which it is reported that the Paris Court of Appeal has condemned members of the association of the National Union of Social Insureds for defamation. questioned Mr. Attali by suggesting that he advocated "the genocide of the old".
[The first three paragraphs of the AFP dispatch (AFP archives screenshot taken on 04/13/2021)]
The judgment, quoted in the dispatch, specifies that "during a dense and passionate dialogue on the faces of the future and the prospects of medicine", Mr. Attali gives his "point of view" and "prepares the spirits important or serious contingencies ".
The appearance of this false quote from Jacque Attali was concomitant with the debate in the National Assembly on a bill opening a right "to a free and chosen end of life", carried by the deputy Olivier Falorni. The debate on euthanasia was held on April 9 in a controversial atmosphere without succeeding, despite broad support, to vote on a complete text for lack of time in the face of thousands of amendments.
Previous quotes falsely attributed to Jacques Attali have already been verified by AFP Factuel: one on the coronavirus, the other on the control of the press.
Edit of 04/14/2021: update after receipt of a copy of the passage from the book devoted to the interview with Jacques Attali provided by the publishing house **
I'm far from being a fan of Attali (and this is an understatement) but that's a well-known fake :
Robot-Translation for the non-fluent-in-French inquiring minds:
Beware of this false quote from Jacques Attali on the euthanasia of seniors
Marine Laouchez , AFP France
A quote attributed to Jacques Attali, former political adviser to François Mitterrand, in which he seems to support the euthanasia of seniors, is circulating on the internet. Shared several hundred times, supposedly taken from a book of interviews published in 1981, it was not pronounced by the economist, who denounced to AFP a text "totally invented" and does not appear in the work in question. Jacques Attali has been attacked several times for his alleged position on the euthanasia of the elderly, and has won defamation cases. The book, titled "The Future of Life", offered reflections on how society approaches the issue of end of life.
"In the future it will be a question of finding a way to reduce the population. We will start with the old people, because as soon as they pass 60-65 years, man lives longer than he produces and it costs dearly. the company " . Thus begins a long quote, which this Facebook post , shared nearly 400 times since April 8, 2021, attributes to Jacques Attali, former adviser to President François Mitterrand. This publication also mentions "the weakest" and "the stupidest" , which must be "got rid of" , "by making them believe that it is for their good" . Facebook screenshot taken on 04/13/2021, crossed out
It also slips a reference to the current health situation, in remarks which according to her would be taken from the book "The future of life" published in 1981: "We will find something or will cause it, a pandemic that targets certain people, a real economic crisis or not, a virus that will affect the old or the big, it doesn't matter, the weak will succumb to it, the fearful and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated. We will have taken care to have planned the treatment, a treatment which will be the solution. "
However, AFP did not find any trace of this quote in the pages it consulted. The publisher, Seghers, sent a copy of the passage from the book devoted to the interview with Jacques Attali.
[Copy of the pages taken from the book "The future of life"]
These extracts had already been highlighted by our colleagues at Checknews who had already looked into the then decontextualized comments on lengthening of life and euthanasia in 2018. The quote appeared around the same date on different forums ( 1 , 2 , or even in the comments on the book sold on the Amazon platform, dated April 8, 2021). This text is totally invented. It is even further from reality than the previous defamatory text. It is in no way close to the initial text. It is like saying that I will have written Mein Kampf" , reacted Jacque Attali, contacted on April 12 by AFP Factuel. In the book, taken from interviews with Michel Salomon, Jacques Attali answers the question "Is it possible and desirable to live 120 years ...?" The only similarities with the Facebook post found are two short extracts: "But as soon as one passes 60/65 years, man lives longer than he produces and it is then expensive for society" , he says. He also explains: "Indeed from the point of view of society, it is much preferable that the human machine stops abruptly rather than that it does not deteriorate gradually" .
Jacques Attali is then in the process of putting forward his point of view on the way, according to him, in which society approaches the question of the place of seniors and the extension of life expectancy.
He explains in particular: "Hence I believe that in the very logic of industrial society, the objective will no longer be to extend life expectancy, but to ensure that within a determined lifespan, man lives as well as possible but in such a way that health expenses will be as low as possible in terms of costs for the community. "
"As always, I am reproached here for wishing for what I am only predicting and denouncing. The new version is just a delusional extension of the false quotation that I had condemned for defamation in 1983", commented Jacques Attali in his response to AFP.
In the book, he concludes: "Euthanasia will be one of the essential instruments of our future societies in all cases. In a socialist logic, to begin with, the problem arises as follows: socialist logic is freedom and fundamental freedom is suicide; consequently, the right to direct or indirect suicide is therefore an absolute value in this type of society. life when it is too unbearable or economically too costly, will emerge and will be common practice. I therefore think that euthanasia, whether a value of freedom or a commodity, will be one of the rules of future society . " The release of the book was followed by the same type of accusations on the euthanasia of the over 65s. Looking in the AFP archives, we come across a dispatch from January 1984, in which it is reported that the Paris Court of Appeal has condemned members of the association of the National Union of Social Insureds for defamation. questioned Mr. Attali by suggesting that he advocated "the genocide of the old".
[The first three paragraphs of the AFP dispatch (AFP archives screenshot taken on 04/13/2021)]
The judgment, quoted in the dispatch, specifies that "during a dense and passionate dialogue on the faces of the future and the prospects of medicine", Mr. Attali gives his "point of view" and "prepares the spirits important or serious contingencies ".
The appearance of this false quote from Jacque Attali was concomitant with the debate in the National Assembly on a bill opening a right "to a free and chosen end of life", carried by the deputy Olivier Falorni. The debate on euthanasia was held on April 9 in a controversial atmosphere without succeeding, despite broad support, to vote on a complete text for lack of time in the face of thousands of amendments.
Previous quotes falsely attributed to Jacques Attali have already been verified by AFP Factuel: one on the coronavirus, the other on the control of the press.
Edit of 04/14/2021: update after receipt of a copy of the passage from the book devoted to the interview with Jacques Attali provided by the publishing house **