Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons such as Dracula, Holmes etc... Is it all just a coincidence? As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if it was coordinated and guided deliberately, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether classics were created and made popular artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it as an example that book reading back then was just as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons such as Dracula, Holmes etc... Is it all just a coincidence? As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if it was coordinated and guided deliberately, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether classics were created and made popular artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it as an example that book reading back then was just as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if it was coordinated and guided deliberately, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether classics were created and made popular artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it as an example that book reading back then was just as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if it was being coordinated and deliberately guided, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether classics were created and made popular artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it as an example that book reading back then was just as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the classics were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind them... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether classics were created and made popular artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it as an example that book reading back then was just as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it as an example that book reading back then was just as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it just an example that book reading back then was just as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... I meant it just an example that book reading back then was as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone?

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... Imeant it just an example that book reading back then was as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentlemen's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone? My bet would be on the former...

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... It was just an example that book reading back then was as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentleman's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone? My bet would be on the former...

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... It was just an example that book reading back then was as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentleman's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized cultural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone? My bet would be on the former...

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... It was just as an example that book reading back then was as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentleman's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those works and characters became globally recognized culural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone? My bet would be on the former...

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... It was just as an example that book reading back then was as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentleman's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those are globally recognized culural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yes, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the characters, lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it all... I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone? My bet would be on the former...

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... It was just as an example that book reading back then was as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.

Ivan Hoe? Hmmm... Not only freemason, but also Russian shill. :)

Haha, good catch!

I see no problems do them in Golf clubs or even private fitness.

Well, yeah, probably, but wouldn't you agree that it is kind of strange that so much of our classics are written by members of one single particular bored gentleman's club? Is it just a coincidence? So it just happened that so many talented classic authors coincidentally were freemasons without any reason whatsoever? Also, purely coincidentally those are globally recognized culural icons (Dracula, Holmes) which are being actively perpetuated to this very day... Is it all just a coincidence? I do not really think so... As I mentioned in my OP, even if we discount all mason related conspiracy theories, it is still strange as hell...

At least Mark Twain is good and interesting for me and I think deserve title of classic regardless of masonic membership.

Yeah, sure. One does not exclude the other. Even if the lore and all the cultural codes were manufactured artificially, it does not mean that there was no real talent behind it. I guess, it all boils down to the question, whether those cultural codes were manufactured artificially or did it all happen without any delibarate guidance and were driven by popularity and talent alone? My bet would be on the former...

As for Hollywood, I think it is much more Jewish thing than masonic.

Could be... It was just as an example that book reading back then was as much, if not more, influential as watching Hollywood and Netflix movies are today.