Native americans had their own writing systems. Mostly used pictographs, but a few of them did manage to have their own languages.

Several Indigenous cultures of the Americas had also developed their own writing systems,[7] the best known being the Maya script.[8]

But I agree with you, I dont really subscribe to this theory. Because even in my pleb family history it can be traced back almost 600 years. So I feel rather confident that the last 1000 years are likely correct.

Whos to really say though. I think its more interesting, as old as humans are, at least 200,000 years, we only seem to have the last 4000 years of history, and even then its pretty full of gaps and assumptions. So its definetly possible to add a 1000 years of "fakeness"?

On a side note, lately ive been thinking about john wynge. There were several other wing's enrolled in the queens college during his time, so obviously he was trying distinguish between himself and the other wings. Really strange. I also wonder who the heck paid for his education, that shit wasnt cheap in the 1400's, lmao still isnt. Its always been a way for the rich to gatekeep the poor.

Before john, no one has any idea where the family line come from. The family history always included us being vikings, but blood test's dont really support that.

History is def weird. And the winners write the history book.

One of our participants had a deep haplogroup testing performed. The tests results revealed our haplogroup is R-L48. This haplogroup is a subset of the WAMH (Western Atlantic Modal Haplogroup -- the most common haplogroup in Western Europe). The R1b-L48 haplogroup is quite common (which makes some comparisons difficult). The haplotypes of the family closely conform the the "Frisian" Modal group discovered several years ago. Ancient Frisia was roughly where The Netherlands are today. It is likely our early ancestors were from Frisia before emigrating to Britain. It also appears our ancestors were part of the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain (in the 5th century) rather than the later Viking invasion (in the 10th century). We have also discovered there are a couple of markers (in the 37 marker test) descendants of Rev. John Wing share, which are relatively rare. In combination, this creates a DNA "signature" which is a good indicator to locate other surnames who have ancient ties with our Wing family. One other family that shares many of the 37 markers (including the fairly rare markers) is the descendants of Henry Howland [father of Mayflower passenger John Howland and John's brothers, Arthur and Henry Howland who also came to Massachusetts].

The Wing family has a what is currently considered a family or private SNP under the L48 Haplogroup. This SNP is called M157.2 (as this same mutation has been previously found in another haplogroup). Two members of the Wing family, each descended from a different son of Rev. John Wing, have both been found to exhibit this SNP, which proves this SNP occurred with or before Rev. John Wing. In other words, this means every male Wing (who descends in a straight paternal line from Rev. John Wing) would also be expected to have this SNP. Thus far, no other family has been found to also have this SNP.

Native americans had their own writing systems. Mostly used pictographs, but a few of them did manage to have their own languages.

Several Indigenous cultures of the Americas had also developed their own writing systems,[7] the best known being the Maya script.[8]

But I agree with you, I dont really subscribe to this theory. Because even in my pleb family history it can be traced back almost 600 years. So I feel rather confident that the last 1000 years are likely correct.

Whos to really say though. I think its more interesting, as old as humans are, at least 200,000 years, we only seem to have the last 4000 years of history, and even then its pretty full of gaps and assumptions. So its definetly possible to add a 1000 years of "fakeness"?

On a side note, lately ive been thinking about john wynge. There were several other wing's enrolled in the queens college during his time, so obviously he was trying distinguish between himself and the other wings. Really strange.

Before john, no one has any idea where they family line come from. The family history always included us being vikings, but blood test's dont really support that.

History is def weird.

One of our participants had a deep haplogroup testing performed. The tests results revealed our haplogroup is R-L48. This haplogroup is a subset of the WAMH (Western Atlantic Modal Haplogroup -- the most common haplogroup in Western Europe). The R1b-L48 haplogroup is quite common (which makes some comparisons difficult). The haplotypes of the family closely conform the the "Frisian" Modal group discovered several years ago. Ancient Frisia was roughly where The Netherlands are today. It is likely our early ancestors were from Frisia before emigrating to Britain. It also appears our ancestors were part of the Anglo-Saxon invasion of Britain (in the 5th century) rather than the later Viking invasion (in the 10th century). We have also discovered there are a couple of markers (in the 37 marker test) descendants of Rev. John Wing share, which are relatively rare. In combination, this creates a DNA "signature" which is a good indicator to locate other surnames who have ancient ties with our Wing family. One other family that shares many of the 37 markers (including the fairly rare markers) is the descendants of Henry Howland [father of Mayflower passenger John Howland and John's brothers, Arthur and Henry Howland who also came to Massachusetts].

The Wing family has a what is currently considered a family or private SNP under the L48 Haplogroup. This SNP is called M157.2 (as this same mutation has been previously found in another haplogroup). Two members of the Wing family, each descended from a different son of Rev. John Wing, have both been found to exhibit this SNP, which proves this SNP occurred with or before Rev. John Wing. In other words, this means every male Wing (who descends in a straight paternal line from Rev. John Wing) would also be expected to have this SNP. Thus far, no other family has been found to also have this SNP.