Think I may have found the crux: The word 'gravitation' has a definition, and it doesn't agree with your usage.

We are not discussing a dictionary, and depending on source there are a great many definitions for “gravitation” available to choose from.

I think i have made it pretty explicit how i am using the word. That’s all we need for communication! If you don’t understand how i am defining gravity and gravitation in this conversation (or why!), please just ask!

There is no magic or anything spooky.

The “spooky” reference is something einstein said about quantum entanglement - it was an allusion. As for magic, yes gravitation is distinctly magical (i.e. contrived fiction and not science in any way). If it existed, it would be capable of routinely doing things impossible for all other known sources of energy. The ordering of the cosmos we observe - alone - is absolutely impossible with the law (invalid theory in actuality, called a law erroneously) of gravitation. Good thing it is magic ;)

Additionally, nitpicking, but gravity hasn't graduated to 'law' yet, mainly because of the error bounds of big G.

Interesting, as it has been taught as the law of gravitation for centuries... Perhaps it’s been recently demoted?

Gravitation can never be a law in my view. The phenomenon of falling already has a name - gravity. It is the law. Gravitation is the contrived fiction misrepresented as a theory to explain that phenomenon/law.

Scientific laws are only “what is”. They can never include cause - which is what theory is for. it should go without saying, but obviously the scientific law and theory cannot be the same.

The word's meaning is literally the phenomena.

Right! Gravity is a known phenomenon [i.e. law] which has existed for multiple millennia.

dodges that the term 'gravitation' doesn't refer to any theory

Not at all! I am acutely aware of that and making explicit mention of that. It is central to my criticism.

You may possibly have miscontrued the 'Theory of Gravitation'

In a scientific context, there is no “theory of gravitation”. Gravitation is billed as a law and sold/taught as a theory [explanation for law] when it isn’t one.

At best, gravitation was intended to be a placeholder for a real theory that would come one day, but if you understand it as newton did - you would know why that isn’t possible. Thus the mystery of why 0 progress has been made on understanding this magical pseudo-force over 3+ centuries and counting is solved. It doesn’t exist to discover or experimentally validate.

Think I may have found the crux: The word 'gravitation' has a definition, and it doesn't agree with your usage.

We are not discussing a dictionary, and depending on source there are a great many definitions for “gravitation” available to choose from.

I think i have made it pretty explicit how i am using the word. That’s all we need for communication! If you don’t understand how i am defining gravity and gravitation in this conversation (or why!), please just ask!

There is no magic or anything spooky.

The “spooky” reference is something einstein said about quantum entanglement - it was an allusion. As for magic, yes gravitation is distinctly magical (i.e. contrived fiction and not science in any way). If it existed, it would be capable of routinely doing things impossible for all other known sources of energy. The ordering of the cosmos we observe - alone - is absolutely impossible with the law (invalid theory in actuality, called a law erroneously) of gravitation. Good thing it is magic ;)

Additionally, nitpicking, but gravity hasn't graduated to 'law' yet, mainly because of the error bounds of big G.

Interesting, as it has been taught as the law of gravitation for centuries... Perhaps it’s been recently demoted?

Gravitation can never be a law in my view. The phenomenon of falling already has a name - gravity. It is the law. Gravitation is the contrived fiction misrepresented as a theory to explain that phenomenon/law.

Scientific laws are only “what is”. They can never include cause - which is what theory is for. it should go without saying, but obviously the scientific law and theory cannot be the same.

The word's meaning is literally the phenomena.

Right! Gravity is a known phenomena [i.e. law] which has existed for multiple millennia.

dodges that the term 'gravitation' doesn't refer to any theory

Not at all! I am acutely aware of that and making explicit mention of that. It is central to my criticism.

You may possibly have miscontrued the 'Theory of Gravitation'

In a scientific context, there is no “theory of gravitation”. Gravitation is billed as a law and sold/taught as a theory [explanation for law] when it isn’t one.

At best, gravitation was intended to be a placeholder for a real theory that would come one day, but if you understand it as newton did - you would know why that isn’t possible. Thus the mystery of why 0 progress has been made on understanding this magical pseudo-force over 3+ centuries and counting is solved. It doesn’t exist to discover or experimentally validate.

Think I may have found the crux: The word 'gravitation' has a definition, and it doesn't agree with your usage.

We are not discussing a dictionary, and depending on source there are a great many definitions for “gravitation” available to choose from.

I think i have made it pretty explicit how i am using the word. That’s all we need for communication! If you don’t understand how i am defining gravity and gravitation in this conversation (or why!), please just ask!

There is no magic or anything spooky.

The “spooky” reference is something einstein said about quantum entanglement - it was an allusion. As for magic, yes gravitation is distinctly magical (i.e. contrived fiction and not science in any way). If it existed, it would be capable of routinely doing things impossible for all other known sources of energy. The ordering of the cosmos we observe - alone - is absolutely impossible with the law (invalid theory in actuality, called a law erroneously) of gravitation. Good thing it is magic ;)

Additionally, nitpicking, but gravity hasn't graduated to 'law' yet, mainly because of the error bounds of big G.

Interesting, as it has been taught as the law of gravitation for centuries... Perhaps it’s been recently demoted?

Gravitation can never be a law in my view. The phenomenon of falling already has a name - gravity. It is the law. Gravitation is the contrived fiction misrepresented as a theory to explain that phenomenon/law.

Scientific laws are only “what is”. They can never include cause - which is what theory is for. it should go without saying, but obviously the scientific law and theory cannot be the same.

The word's meaning is literally the phenomena.

Right! Gravity is a known phenomena [i.e. law] which has existed for multiple millennia.

dodges that the term 'gravitation' doesn't refer to any theory

Not at all! I am acutely aware of that and making explicit mention of that. It is central to my criticism.

You may possibly have miscontrued the 'Theory of Gravitation'

In a scientific context, there is no “theory of gravitation”. Gravitation is billed as a law and sold/taught as a theory [explanation for law] when it isn’t one.

At best, gravitation was intended to be a placeholder for a real theory that would come one day, but if you understand it as newton did - you would know why that isn’t possible. Thus the mystery if why 0 progress has been made on understanding this magical pseudo-force is solved. It doesn’t exist to discover or experimentally validate.