Hmm, didn't realise. Sounds like a bunch of narratives added after the collapse and break up, and then the later treaties. Until today it's a modern concentric narrative. False in some ways, true in others.

I didn't know that Women wore the hijab historically? I thought much of the Ottoman Empire was Liberal on that, unless in certain city states. Because of the slave trade, selling nudes in the bazaars. Yes the devout. But didn't Shira law come later?

The Ottomans were a history of wars, both internal and opposing, and it shed more and more territory.

It didn't have a strongman at its helm, not entirely since its heydays, the only times Islam fully united were often by jihads. Becoming divided from within and from without. Some places perhaps did, and they were warred with, others aligned for more power, and status, and influence. Didn't Persia oppose it. That feud goes back to the dawn of Islam. Possibly Shia, Sunni. Some opposing claims were granted status. Others were defeated in battle. Morocco is another similar story and many others.

Of course the Ottomans sided with the Germans and Austrians WW1, the Imperialists versus the Globalists. Empires lost, and banks and corps started flooding in. Oil became popular and flight and the automobile. The first oil fields outside of America, were former Ottoman territories, Caspian, Russia faster claimed and influenced, and Libya had a few different conquests from competing Europeans. Of course parts of the Caspian like the Balkans were already breaking away for longer. While Egypt had been ever since the rekindling of Egyptology, Napoleon. Of course it then warred against with the Seuz.

Shortened version. No I don't know all of it. Change happens, driven by technology, and trade, and competition. Most is hard fought. Then the narratives are rewritten.

Hmm, didn't realise. Sounds like a bunch of narratives added after the collapse and break up, and then the later treaties. Until today it's a modern concentric narrative. False in some ways, true in others.

I didn't know that Women wore the hijab historically? I thought much of the Ottoman Empire was Liberal on that, unless in certain city states. Because of the slave trade, selling nudes in the bazaars. Yes the devout. But didn't Shira law came later?

The Ottomans were a history of wars, both internal and opposing, and it shed more and more territory.

It didn't have a strongman at its helm, not entirely since its heydays, the only times Islam fully united were often by jihads. Becoming divided from within and from without. Some places perhaps did, and they were warred with, others aligned for more power, and status, and influence. Didn't Persia oppose it. That feud goes back to the dawn of Islam. Possibly Shia, Sunni. Some opposing claims were granted status. Others were defeated in battle. Morocco is another similar story and many others.

Of course the Ottomans sided with the Germans and Austrians WW1, the Imperialists versus the Globalists. Empires lost, and banks and corps started flooding in. Oil became popular and flight and the automobile. The first oil fields outside of America, were former Ottoman territories, Caspian, Russia faster claimed and influenced, and Libya had a few different conquests from competing Europeans. Of course parts of the Caspian like the Balkans were already breaking away for longer. While Egypt had been ever since the rekindling of Egyptology, Napoleon. Of course it then warred against with the Seuz.

Shortened version. No I don't know all of it. Change happens, driven by technology, and trade, and competition. Most is hard fought. Then the narratives are rewritten.