Saying "it's a video" doesn't mean its not evidence.

I agree! I didn’t mean to say it wasn’t evidence, I just meant to say it isn’t discussion! I am most interested in earnest discussion, and rarely have time for videos. I just wanted to explain that I’m not ignoring you or anything we are discussing!

And the shape of the world can be concluded not to be spherical just by staring up and pondering.

I agree! That’s the trouble, and that’s how we got into this mess at least 2 thousand years ago! We can conclude absolutely anything we want while sitting on our asses, staring up, and pondering. That is the way that mythology is created! That is precisely the way that the globe “conclusion” (really an unvalidated assumption misrepresented as fact from childhood) came to be! Don’t you see the problem?!

Peer reviewed articles are not nesseary in these observations and proofs

Agreed!

Its not debateable.

Sadly everything is debatable. The trick is to recognize that debate is not the way we determine what is going in reality, is merely base pageantry for sycophants and fools, and is to be avoided at all costs!

You can learn or stay programmed.

I choose learn! Let us learn together, and share our learning with one another!

Saying "it's a video" doesn't mean its not evidence.

I agree! I didn’t mean to say it wasn’t evidence, I just meant to say it isn’t discussion! I am most interested in earnest discussion, and rarely have time for videos. I just wanted to explain that I’m not ignoring you or anything we are discussing!

And the shape of the world can be concluded not to be spherical just by staring up and pondering.

I agree! That’s the trouble, and that’s how we got into this mess at least 2 thousand years ago! We can conclude absolutely anything we want while sitting on our asses, staring up, and pondering. That is the way that mythology is created! That is precisely the way that the globe “conclusion” (really an unvalidated assumption misrepresented as fact from childhood) came to be! Don’t you see the problem?!

Peer reviewed articles are not nesseary in these observations and proofs

Agreed!

Its not debateable.

Sadly everything is debatable. The trick is to recognize that debate is not the way we determine what is going in reality, is merely base pageantry for sycophants and fools, and is to be avoided at all costs!

You can learn or stay programmed.

I choose learn! Let us learn together, and share our learning with one another!