Hey guys. I have a ton of info about random things that I just sit on because there doesn't seem to be anything I can do with it. There was a post about Nipsey on r/conspiracy and I just shared some private notes coz I'm drunk and I literally don't think we'll ever be able to do anything with this info. Reposting here because it seems like this is a story no one will ever know or care about....it's interesting to me, so maybe it'll be interesting to the gentlemen or gentlewomen of a more refined caliber that frequent this board:
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We were working with Nipsey & YG on a TV show pilot we were gonna pitch to Netflix. The show would be autobiographical about their lives growing up in gang communities as young crips/bloods. The underlying conflict would be about exploring how gang-enhancement sentences changed the dynamic of gang-banging as they were coming of age. Nip was murdered before this project was able to be realized in any kind of substantial way. I found out a lot about the CA laws and the story behind this phenomena, and it's truly a doozy....it's kind of a lay-up pulitzer prize for any investigative journalist that wants to do a tiny bit of digging. If I were to do it myself, I'd focus on interviewing prominent defense attorneys that were active in the early 2000s after prop 21 got passed.
Basically CA colluded with private prisons to create a never-ending feed of young black males that would act as slave labor in private prisons. There was an intentional and observable push to make this happen.
Following how the legislation evolved to create a framework that allowed this to happen is easy and documentable and all out in the open. The pieces I was never able to link together were how 2 main private prisons corps (CivicCore and GeoGroup) that took over CA penal responsibilities of many prison facilities came to prominence at the exact same time as draconian sentences for gang members. Both these things happened at the same time. NY's old police chief (in charge during 9/11) relocated to LA in 2002 and was at the helm of a perfect storm of oppressive legislation coming to fruition combined with 9/11-era 'fear of terrorism is more important that your rights' ideology. I was never able to find the smoking gun linking private prison corps taking control of a bunch of CA prisons with these very egregious sentences that started getting handed out in CA courts, but I'll eat my own shit if they're not connected.
People think that the Dr. Sebi shit is a rationale for his assassination...going up against big pharm is a risky endeavor. The story at the heart of the show Nip wanted to create with us would definitely have generated a ton of negative attention for the LAPD about a thing that (as far as I know) has not been reported on in a wide way. I share this just to let people know Nipsey had a lot of irons in a lot of different fires that could ejaculate yolk on powerful people's faces....no one knows about this one, so maybe he was involved in other things none of us knew about. For the record, I'm not saying our little project was connected to Nipsey's demise in any way....I have no idea how the LAPD would even know that we were even exploring this story/idea. Everything was in very very very rough discussion stages.
~ Here are some e-mails from our chain:
"For now, we really want to focus on the year 2002-2003 This was the year the NY police commissioner came to LA and the murders/crime dropped big time, and then essentially kept going down ever since. I’ve attached a stat sheet as well as a general article. But there’s suprisingly little on a simple google search about Gang injunctions - and how they maybe were stepped up with the no comish.Gang enhancement laws - “ “ “The new techEtc
So JD if you want to start diving into that I think it could say a lot for our thesis.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_6656840 http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Los-Angeles-California.html" ~ "This is fascinating. Here's what I found:
Gang injunctions started in the late 80s, were around in the 90s, and basically just made it illegal for proven gangmembers to do certain things that were otherwise not illegal (loitering, associating with people, etc.). Basically a way to strip gangmembers (black people, lets keep it real) rights and make it legal/easier for cops to wrap them up for bullshit, search them illegally, etc. So, the STEP (Street Terrorism and Enforcement Act) was passed in 1988 to try and combat gang violence, but there were certain statues that courts were still trying to figure out how to define and persecute throughout the 90s...specifically Section 654 is where the enhancements came into play, but there were some issues with double-jeopardy in using it in sentencing, other issues that popped up, and mainly it was used to enhance sentencing of an individual that committed any crime....so maybe in 1984 you stole a car, you'd get 6 months, after step, now you're getting 5 years...however, it looks like In 2000, Prop 21 was passed, which made it easier to prove gang membership, and that's when you started seeing these insane gang enhancement sentences go into effect (it opened up what constituted activity justifying of gang enhancement)
So to understand how these early 2000s enhancement sentences came about, we gotta look into section 654 of the STEP act, and then how Prop. 21 being passed in 2000 allowed the definition of gang membership to be expanded, and thus allowed these insane sentences to start. It'd probably be a good idea to talk to a LA lawyer and see if he/she can break this down in laymans terms. Ask about STEP, prop 21, 'status-based' vs 'conduct-based' charges against defendants...basically, there's wordings in these laws that say if you show any 'specific intent towards any criminal acitivity', you're open to enhancement sentencing, and if there's also existing gang injunctions, maybe just being somewhere as a gang member you're not supposed to is considered a criminal activity, thus you're open to the STEP enhancement sentencing.
Garcia vs Carey, People vs Romero are watershed cases for how this all evolved from a legal perspective.
Here's where I got all this information: https://digitalcommons.law.ggu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1968&context=ggulrev ~
"So, the picture I'm getting....all this legislation has been in place since the 80s. It really just took a new commissioner to come in and say, 'okay, now we're really utilizing this to it's fullest extent to put these people away and send a message' and that's it. The legal framework and precedent cases already existed, so it probably just took a mandate from someone like the police commissioner to start hitting as many people as possible with these fucked up sentences. Here's an interesting place my admittedly conspiratorial line of thinking went....I'd be interested to know when Private Prisons really kicked into gear, and if we can find a correlation between that industry and these super draconian sentencings." ~ "I also found this:
https://www-bcf.usc.edu/~idjlaw/PDF/18-3/18-3%20Van%20Hofwegen.pdf
IMPORTANT BITS:
Moreover, the STEP Act also provides for increased sentences for gang related crimes.34 Sentence enhancements may be given when a defendant commits a felony 1) “for the benefit of, at the direction of, or in association with any criminal street gang” and 2) “with the specific intent to promote, further, or assist in any criminal conduct by gang members.”35 The exact sentence received by a defendant who commits a gang related offense depends on the crime itself and the time must be served in addition to the sentence imposed for the criminal act.36 Extra prison time varies from two to four years for less serious felonies to five years for “serious felonies.”37 Violent felonies receive an additional ten years, and defendants who commit home invasion, carjacking, or felony shootings can find themselves facing an additional fifteen years in prison.38 As a result of the enhancement, criminal defendants may face sentences more than tripling the time in prison they would otherwise serve for the underlying offense.
- scholars argue that gang databases are poor representatives of actual gang involvement because police target certain communities and place minority men in a database with little or no evidence of gang involvement.62 For example, police commonly place African American youth in gang databases merely because they have a childhood nickname or are seen congregating on a street corner with friends.63 Once an individual is placed in a gang database, his friends are also likely to find themselves in the database because of their association with a “known” gang member.64 As a result of these practices, black and other minority males are disproportionately targeted, arrested, and incarcerated for gang involvement at far higher rates than their actual participation dictates.
Researchers, including Robert Bursik and Harold Grasmick, argue that a significant problem with anti-gang legislation is the absence of clear and narrow standards defining what constitutes criminal activity.79 The loose standards give police broad discretion to determine whether a group is a gang.80 Similarly, the STEP Act’s other broad definitions allow law enforcement to use its overestimation of the role of minority men and boys in gangs to disproportionately target, arrest, and incarcerate black males for gang involvement.81 By providing law enforcement broad discretion to apply the Act’s provisions only to minority offenders while ignoring similar crimes committed by whites, the STEP Act perpetuates unfair discrimination among racial divisions. ~ TL:DR, corrupt LA police + court system laid the ground work for legally fucking over people from poor neighborhoods in South Central for a decade under the guise of combating gangbanging, and it all came together right after 9/11. If I'm not just retarded, this seemed to have been a coordinated move from state federal and local law enforcement. The introduction of new corporate private prison owners probably is related to these moves but I can't prove it.
There is another connection with stingray and other invasive police technologies and the patriot act here....it actually ties into Danny Casolaro's research about 'The Octopus' and surprisingly Gislane Maxwell is a minor character as well....but it's already a lot to chew and I don't know if any of you guys even give a fuckkkk
This would literally be an award-winning story if investigative journalism actually existed in America anymore. I've sent these pieces of info to a variety of different journalists, and none ever responded. This is a common thing you encounter existing in the conspiracy world. It has made me cynical and fatalistic.
Hey guys. I have a ton of info about random things that I just sit on because there doesn't seem to be anything I can do with it. There was a post about Nipsey on r/conspiracy and I just shared some private notes coz I'm drunk and I literally don't think we'll ever be able to do anything with this info. Reposting here because it seems like this is a story no one will ever know or care about....it's interesting to me, so maybe it'll be interesting to the gentlemen or gentlewomen of a more refined caliber that frequent this board: ~ We were working with Nipsey on a pilot about how gang-enhancement sentences changed gang-banging right before he died. I found out a lot about the laws and the story behind this phenomena....it's kind of a lay-up pulitzer for any investigative journalist that wants to do a tiny bit of digging. If I were to do it, I'd focus on interviewing prominent defense attorneys that were active in the early 2000s after prop 21 got passed.
Last missing piece to make it explosive would be finding out how to link the establishment of the 2 main private prisons corps that took over penal responsibilities to this push for ridiculous sentences. Both these things happened at the same time, with 9/11's police chief at the helm of a perfect storm of legislation and mandate to crack down. I was never able to find the smoking gun linking these two events together, but I'll eat my own shit if they're not connected.
People think that the Dr. Sebi shit is a rationale for his assassination...going up against big pharm is a risky endeavor. The story at the heart of the show Nip wanted to create with us would definitely have generated a ton of negative attention for the LAPD about a thing that (as far as I know) has not been reported on in a wide way. I share this just to let people know Nipsey had a lot of irons in a lot of different fires that could ejaculate yolk on powerful people's faces....no one knows about this one, so maybe he was involved in other things none of us knew about. For the record, I'm not saying our little project was connected to Nipsey's demise in any way....I have no idea how the LAPD would even know that we were even exploring this story/idea. Everything was in very very very rough discussion stages.
~ Here are some e-mails from our chain:
"For now, we really want to focus on the year 2002-2003 This was the year the NY police commissioner came to LA and the murders/crime dropped big time, and then essentially kept going down ever since. I’ve attached a stat sheet as well as a general article. But there’s suprisingly little on a simple google search about Gang injunctions - and how they maybe were stepped up with the no comish.Gang enhancement laws - “ “ “The new techEtc
So JD if you want to start diving into that I think it could say a lot for our thesis.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_6656840 http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Los-Angeles-California.html" ~ "This is fascinating. Here's what I found:
Gang injunctions started in the late 80s, were around in the 90s, and basically just made it illegal for proven gangmembers to do certain things that were otherwise not illegal (loitering, associating with people, etc.). Basically a way to strip gangmembers (black people, lets keep it real) rights and make it legal/easier for cops to wrap them up for bullshit, search them illegally, etc. So, the STEP (Street Terrorism and Enforcement Act) was passed in 1988 to try and combat gang violence, but there were certain statues that courts were still trying to figure out how to define and persecute throughout the 90s...specifically Section 654 is where the enhancements came into play, but there were some issues with double-jeopardy in using it in sentencing, other issues that popped up, and mainly it was used to enhance sentencing of an individual that committed any crime....so maybe in 1984 you stole a car, you'd get 6 months, after step, now you're getting 5 years...however, it looks like In 2000, Prop 21 was passed, which made it easier to prove gang membership, and that's when you started seeing these insane gang enhancement sentences go into effect (it opened up what constituted activity justifying of gang enhancement)
So to understand how these early 2000s enhancement sentences came about, we gotta look into section 654 of the STEP act, and then how Prop. 21 being passed in 2000 allowed the definition of gang membership to be expanded, and thus allowed these insane sentences to start. It'd probably be a good idea to talk to a LA lawyer and see if he/she can break this down in laymans terms. Ask about STEP, prop 21, 'status-based' vs 'conduct-based' charges against defendants...basically, there's wordings in these laws that say if you show any 'specific intent towards any criminal acitivity', you're open to enhancement sentencing, and if there's also existing gang injunctions, maybe just being somewhere as a gang member you're not supposed to is considered a criminal activity, thus you're open to the STEP enhancement sentencing.
Garcia vs Carey, People vs Romero are watershed cases for how this all evolved from a legal perspective.
Here's where I got all this information: https://digitalcommons.law.ggu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1968&context=ggulrev ~
"So, the picture I'm getting....all this legislation has been in place since the 80s. It really just took a new commissioner to come in and say, 'okay, now we're really utilizing this to it's fullest extent to put these people away and send a message' and that's it. The legal framework and precedent cases already existed, so it probably just took a mandate from someone like the police commissioner to start hitting as many people as possible with these fucked up sentences. Here's an interesting place my admittedly conspiratorial line of thinking went....I'd be interested to know when Private Prisons really kicked into gear, and if we can find a correlation between that industry and these super draconian sentencings." ~ "I also found this:
https://www-bcf.usc.edu/~idjlaw/PDF/18-3/18-3%20Van%20Hofwegen.pdf
IMPORTANT BITS:
Moreover, the STEP Act also provides for increased sentences for gang related crimes.34 Sentence enhancements may be given when a defendant commits a felony 1) “for the benefit of, at the direction of, or in association with any criminal street gang” and 2) “with the specific intent to promote, further, or assist in any criminal conduct by gang members.”35 The exact sentence received by a defendant who commits a gang related offense depends on the crime itself and the time must be served in addition to the sentence imposed for the criminal act.36 Extra prison time varies from two to four years for less serious felonies to five years for “serious felonies.”37 Violent felonies receive an additional ten years, and defendants who commit home invasion, carjacking, or felony shootings can find themselves facing an additional fifteen years in prison.38 As a result of the enhancement, criminal defendants may face sentences more than tripling the time in prison they would otherwise serve for the underlying offense.
- scholars argue that gang databases are poor representatives of actual gang involvement because police target certain communities and place minority men in a database with little or no evidence of gang involvement.62 For example, police commonly place African American youth in gang databases merely because they have a childhood nickname or are seen congregating on a street corner with friends.63 Once an individual is placed in a gang database, his friends are also likely to find themselves in the database because of their association with a “known” gang member.64 As a result of these practices, black and other minority males are disproportionately targeted, arrested, and incarcerated for gang involvement at far higher rates than their actual participation dictates.
Researchers, including Robert Bursik and Harold Grasmick, argue that a significant problem with anti-gang legislation is the absence of clear and narrow standards defining what constitutes criminal activity.79 The loose standards give police broad discretion to determine whether a group is a gang.80 Similarly, the STEP Act’s other broad definitions allow law enforcement to use its overestimation of the role of minority men and boys in gangs to disproportionately target, arrest, and incarcerate black males for gang involvement.81 By providing law enforcement broad discretion to apply the Act’s provisions only to minority offenders while ignoring similar crimes committed by whites, the STEP Act perpetuates unfair discrimination among racial divisions. ~ TL:DR, corrupt LA police + court system laid the ground work for legally fucking over people from poor neighborhoods in South Central for a decade under the guise of combating gangbanging, and it all came together right after 9/11. If I'm not just retarded, this seemed to have been a coordinated move from state federal and local law enforcement. The introduction of new corporate private prison owners probably is related to these moves but I can't prove it.
There is another connection with stingray and other invasive police technologies and the patriot act here....it actually ties into Danny Casolaro's research about 'The Octopus' and surprisingly Gislane Maxwell is a minor character as well....but it's already a lot to chew and I don't know if any of you guys even give a fuckkkk
This would literally be an award-winning story if investigative journalism actually existed in America anymore. I've sent these pieces of info to a variety of different journalists, and none ever responded. This is a common thing you encounter existing in the conspiracy world. It has made me cynical and fatalistic.
Hey guys. I have a ton of info about random things that I just sit on because there doesn't seem to be anything I can do with it. There was a post about Nipsey on r/conspiracy and I just shared some private notes coz I'm drunk and I literally don't think we'll ever be able to do anything with this info. Reposting here because it seems like this is a story no one will ever know or care about....it's interesting to me, so maybe it'll be interesting to the gentlemen or gentlewomen of a more refined caliber that frequent this board: ~ We were working with Nipsey on a pilot about how gang-enhancement sentences changed gang-banging right before he died. I found out a lot about the laws and the story behind this phenomena....it's kind of a lay-up pulitzer for any investigative journalist that wants to do a tiny bit of digging. If I were to do it, I'd focus on interviewing prominent defense attorneys that were active in the early 2000s after prop 21 got passed.
Last missing piece to make it explosive would be finding out how to link the establishment of the 2 main private prisons corps that took over penal responsibilities to this push for ridiculous sentences. Both these things happened at the same time, with 9/11's police chief at the helm of a perfect storm of legislation and mandate to crack down. I was never able to find the smoking gun linking these two events together, but I'll eat my own shit if they're not connected.
People think that the Dr. Sebi shit is a rationale for his assassination...going up against big pharm is a risky endeavor. The story at the heart of the show Nip wanted to create with us would definitely have generated a ton of negative attention for the LAPD about a thing that (as far as I know) has not been reported on in a wide way.
I share this just to let people know Nipsey had a lot of irons in a lot of different fires that could ejaculate yolk on powerful people's faces....no one knows about this one, so maybe he was involved in other things none of us knew about. For the record, I'm not saying our little project was connected to Nipsey's demise in any way....I have no idea how the LAPD would even know that we were even exploring this story/idea. Everything was in very very very rough discussion stages. ~ "For now, we really want to focus on the year 2002-2003 This was the year the NY police commissioner came to LA and the murders/crime dropped big time, and then essentially kept going down ever since. I’ve attached a stat sheet as well as a general article. But there’s suprisingly little on a simple google search about Gang injunctions - and how they maybe were stepped up with the no comish.Gang enhancement laws - “ “ “The new techEtc
So JD if you want to start diving into that I think it could say a lot for our thesis.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_6656840
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Los-Angeles-California.html"
~
Gang injunctions started in the late 80s, were around in the 90s, and basically just made it illegal for proven gangmembers to do certain things that were otherwise not illegal (loitering, associating with people, etc.). Basically a way to strip gangmembers (black people, lets keep it real) rights and make it legal/easier for cops to wrap them up for bullshit, search them illegally, etc.
So, the STEP (Street Terrorism and Enforcement Act) was passed in 1988 to try and combat gang violence, but there were certain statues that courts were still trying to figure out how to define and persecute throughout the 90s...specifically Section 654 is where the enhancements came into play, but there were some issues with double-jeopardy in using it in sentencing, other issues that popped up, and mainly it was used to enhance sentencing of an individual that committed any crime....so maybe in 1984 you stole a car, you'd get 6 months, after step, now you're getting 5 years...however, it looks like In 2000, Prop 21 was passed, which made it easier to prove gang membership, and that's when you started seeing these insane gang enhancement sentences go into effect (it opened up what constituted activity justifying of gang enhancement)
So to understand how these early 2000s enhancement sentences came about, we gotta look into section 654 of the STEP act, and then how Prop. 21 being passed in 2000 allowed the definition of gang membership to be expanded, and thus allowed these insane sentences to start.
It'd probably be a good idea to talk to a LA lawyer and see if he/she can break this down in laymans terms. Ask about STEP, prop 21, 'status-based' vs 'conduct-based' charges against defendants...basically, there's wordings in these laws that say if you show any 'specific intent towards any criminal acitivity', you're open to enhancement sentencing, and if there's also existing gang injunctions, maybe just being somewhere as a gang member you're not supposed to is considered a criminal activity, thus you're open to the STEP enhancement sentencing.
Garcia vs Carey, People vs Romero are watershed cases for how this all evolved from a legal perspective.
Here's where I got all this information: https://digitalcommons.law.ggu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1968&context=ggulrev
So, the picture I'm getting....all this legislation has been in place since the 80s. It really just took a new commissioner to come in and say, 'okay, now we're really utilizing this to it's fullest extent to put these people away and send a message' and that's it. The legal framework and precedent cases already existed, so it probably just took a mandate from someone like the police commissioner to start hitting as many people as possible with these fucked up sentences.
Here's an interesting place my admittedly conspiratorial line of thinking went....I'd be interested to know when Private Prisons really kicked into gear, and if we can find a correlation between that industry and these super draconian sentencings. ~
also this: https://www-bcf.usc.edu/~idjlaw/PDF/18-3/18-3%20Van%20Hofwegen.pdf
IMPORTANT BITS:
Moreover, the STEP Act also provides for increased sentences for gang related crimes.34 Sentence enhancements may be given when a defendant commits a felony 1) “for the benefit of, at the direction of, or in association with any criminal street gang” and 2) “with the specific intent to promote, further, or assist in any criminal conduct by gang members.”35 The exact sentence received by a defendant who commits a gang related offense depends on the crime itself and the time must be served in addition to the sentence imposed for the criminal act.36 Extra prison time varies from two to four years for less serious felonies to five years for “serious felonies.”37 Violent felonies receive an additional ten years, and defendants who commit home invasion, carjacking, or felony shootings can find themselves facing an additional fifteen years in prison.38 As a result of the enhancement, criminal defendants may face sentences more than tripling the time in prison they would otherwise serve for the underlying offense.39
scholars argue that gang databases are poor representatives of actual gang involvement because police target certain communities and place minority men in a database with little or no evidence of gang involvement.62 For example, police commonly place African American youth in gang databases merely because they have a childhood nickname or are seen congregating on a street corner with friends.63 Once an individual is placed in a gang database, his friends are also likely to find themselves in the database because of their association with a “known” gang member.64 As a result of these practices, black and other minority males are disproportionately targeted, arrested, and incarcerated for gang involvement at far higher rates than their actual participation dictates.
Researchers, including Robert Bursik and Harold Grasmick, argue that a significant problem with anti-gang legislation is the absence of clear and narrow standards defining what constitutes criminal activity.79 The loose standards give police broad discretion to determine whether a group is a gang.80 Similarly, the STEP Act’s other broad definitions allow law enforcement to use its overestimation of the role of minority men and boys in gangs to disproportionately target, arrest, and incarcerate black males for gang involvement.81 By providing law enforcement broad discretion to apply the Act’s provisions only to minority offenders while ignoring similar crimes committed by whites, the STEP Act perpetuates unfair discrimination among racial divisions.
~
TL:DR, corrupt LA police + court system laid the ground work for legally fucking over people from poor neighborhoods in South Central for a decade under the guise of combating gangbanging, and it all came together right after 9/11. If I'm not just retarded, this seemed to have been a coordinated move from state federal and local law enforcement. The introduction of new corporate private prison owners probably is related to these moves but I can't prove it.
There is another connection with stingray and other invasive police technologies and the patriot act here....it actually ties into Danny Casolaro's research about 'The Octopus' and surprisingly Gislane Maxwell is a minor character as well....but it's already a lot to chew and I don't know if any of you guys even give a fuckkkk