After my last post about antifa I decided to do some research on my own, since people were very upset at my ignorance. So now I have some info and new questions. The consensus from the last post was that antifa is actually fascist and is an arm of the government used to further subjugate us. After reading about it, it sounds more like an anarchistic movement. They seem to have communist and socialist ideals, which isnt necessarily a bad thing as those ideas started out innocent and got corrupted by money and power just like capitalism. People said that they are claiming to be anti fascist while committing fascist acts although I couldnt really find anything on that. What if it is a real movement, and therefore a threat to the government, and then the government poses as them to commit acts that discredits them. Anarchism is one of the biggest threats to our government so of course they would want to bring public hate to antifa. Are there any pro antifa people that can weigh in this time? Not one popped up last time to give an opinion
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Dawg I used to consider myself "antifa" back when I took it's meaning at face value. I am always and forever going to be against a centralized state controlling the population. As I saw "antifa" begin backing a puppet like Biden I became wildly disillusioned with what their real intentions were.
While yes, there are still many like me who hope to see the destruction of the state as it exists, and the empowerment of the workers as the true leaders, many who are guiding the "movement" are neoliberal fascists.
Those in control are hiding behind traditional leftist and anarchist "buzzwords" to promote their agenda. As such they have gathered a rather large group of people who have continued to latch onto those buzzwords and become victims of the propaganda that pushes people into identity politics.
Antifa as a term is largely supported by folks who once stared with bright young eyes at the destruction of the system that fucked them and everyone they know. Now it's a bunch of disillusioned 30-somethings hiding behind the same terminology to take their marching orders from neoliberal agitprop.
Great post. How would true anarchists start an anti government movement without being tracked down and silenced by the government or infiltrated by the less bright individuals?
Yea the data-mining that gave them this modern power has decimated any form of legitimate opposition. They have the power and information to nip even the most mild of uprisings in the bud before it becomes big enough to warrant attention by the very media THEY control. It is without question that of any "anti-establisment" group has reached the state media, it was under the control of those paying for the subsequent "reports".
We are legitimately living under the flagrant use of doublespeak and doublethink. They aren't remotely hiding it, just demonizing everyone who calls it out.
And my understanding is you cant even use the dark web anymore because the government has infiltrated it and has ways of tracking. There must be some way to accomplish something. I guess the only real way is off the grid guerrilla warfare, but that's a difficult thing to do
Well they have a multi-decade long record of consistently expanding their power into all forms of communication. Not saying it in a religious way, but the reality is... find your peace with yourself. Continue any opposition that feels right to you, but don't expect a massive revolution. We may have a surge of activity, but globally... I'm inclined to believe this keeps going in a bad way. I will keep hoping for more, but they've tightened the clamps for so long with no opposition... I can't help but think that finding your own peace is key to making it to the end without losing yourself.