My kid took satisfaction in making over $15k (most of that cash tips) in 2 months. She was able to use that to cover her college expenses for the year. Being able to support herself was important and satisfying to her, but I suppose handling your own shit and not being dependent doesn't mean much you and people who think like you.
It's not a fucking career, it's a serving job. You have an objective and you work towards it. It's to give you a bunch of dough in a short period of time.
Unemployment should not pay better than working
Agreed. But the next line about minimum wage you're completely off. Ignoring the well worn points either said makes on this....again, she made nowhere close to minimum. Anyone else in her position and with the same drive would have done the same. And, as I said earlier, more...people were begging to spend money.
The lockdowns gave a lot of people time to reflect on their lives...Never in anyone's lifetime has this happened
Yes, and no. I work in tech. In 1999 we were a valued commodity. In 2000 many were laid off. I was out for 9 months. I reflected pretty hard during this time.
Most people can't just ride things out.
Also agreed. But...when the jobs opened up, you go get one. You would make more, since you're boiling your points down to only money (by the way, working is an achievement that many folks prioritize, so it's not just dough. Again, that may seem unbelievable to some).
Taxes have nothing to do with this.
Kinda not. Most people think this is all free money--in reality everyone is paying, or will pay for their subsidies. At the end of the year, you get a big tax bill you're not expecting, and then what? Generally taxes aren't taken out of the unemployment checks.
It was logical, and fiscally intelligent for most people to not work in the service industry and take the check during the lockdown. A ton of people used this money and extra time to pursue education and/or look for better jobs.
Perhaps. The jobs didn't exist, so I'm in alignment with the premise. I'd like to see any sort of data you have on the last claim. I simply don't believe you. Who's going to pay for college/trade schools at today's prices for what's essentially distance learning?
At max, unemployment was a grand a week. That's pretty close to what a year in college costs now--$30k on the low end, and only goes up. Community college is less, but it wouldn't give you skills or opportunities, so you have to go to state schools or private--which are waaaay more expensive. Would you really go in debt $150k+ if you were dependent on government handouts? Really? What sort of education/job would you try and target? Nursing (somewhat of a demand)? That's $200k, and more than 4 years, easy. Now we're coming off 18 months and the unemployment is going away, which means they're going to need money now. This simply wouldn't be viable to most people, and unless I see actual data, I remain skeptical.
I really am sorry that your resort experience wasn't as good as you hoped for..
At no point did I say it wasn't what I hoped for, but if I gave that impression (and probably did), it was incorrect. Resorts are the norm on Hilton Head, not individual hotels--which was my point. They're also a good means to make money for people that have a brain and an objective. I was grateful to be somewhere beautiful with my wife, almost everything we did didn't cost much money--biking, beach, etc. I didn't mind the lines or wait, because I knew the situation. It wasn't the same, and that's because of the higher stress level of the workers there. I tipped very generously. I made a point to talk, and try to connect with, those folks that were there. I found out their respective situations, and tried to empathize as much as I could. I wanted them to know we were grateful for their help. Overall, it was very pleasant for the reasons I listed, and others.
My kid took satisfaction in making over $15k (most of that cash tips) in 2 months. She was able to use that to cover her college expenses for the year. Being able to support herself was important and satisfying to her, but I suppose handling your own shit and not being dependent doesn't mean much you and people who think like you.
It's not a fucking career, it's a serving job. You have an objective and you work towards it. It's to give you a bunch of dough in a short period of time.
Agreed. But the next line about minimum wage you're completely off. Ignoring the well worn points either said makes on this....again, she made nowhere close to minimum. Anyone else in her position and with the same drive would have done the same. And, as I said earlier, more...people were begging to spend money.
Yes, and no. I work in tech. In 1999 we were a valued commodity. In 2000 many were laid off. I was out for 9 months. I reflected pretty hard during this time.
Also agreed. But...when the jobs opened up, you go get one. You would make more, since you're boiling your points down to only money (by the way, working is an achievement that many folks prioritize, so it's not just dough. Again, that may seem unbelievable to some).
Kinda not. Most people think this is all free money--in reality everyone is paying, or will pay for their subsidies. At the end of the year, you get a big tax bill you're not expecting, and then what? Generally taxes aren't taken out of the unemployment checks.
Perhaps. The jobs didn't exist, so I'm in alignment with the premise. I'd like to see any sort of data you have on the last claim. I simply don't believe you. Who's going to pay for college/trade schools at today's prices for what's essentially distance learning?
At max, unemployment was a grand a week. That's pretty close to what a year in college costs now--$30k on the low end, and only goes up. Community college is less, but it wouldn't give you skills or opportunities, so you have to go to state schools or private--which are waaaay more expensive. Would you really go in debt $150k+ if you were dependent on government handouts? Really? What sort of education/job would you try and target? Nursing (somewhat of a demand)? That's $200k, and more than 4 years, easy. Now we're coming off 18 months and the unemployment is going away, which means they're going to need money now. This simply wouldn't be viable to most people, and unless I see actual data, I remain skeptical.
At no point did I say it wasn't what I hoped for, but if I gave that impression (and probably did), it was incorrect. Resorts are the norm on Hilton Head, not individual hotels--which was my point. They're also a good means to make money for people that have a brain and an objective. I was grateful to be somewhere beautiful with my wife, almost everything we did didn't cost much money--biking, beach, etc. I didn't mind the lines or wait, because I knew the situation. It wasn't the same, and that's because of the higher stress level of the workers there. I tipped very generously. I made a point to talk, and try to connect with, those folks that were there. I found out their respective situations, and tried to empathize as much as I could. I wanted them to know we were grateful for their help. Overall, it was very pleasant for the reasons I listed, and others.
Unemployment pay isn't free money.