u/Graphenium, you didn't pick up on my prior thoughts here.

Since I met you, you've had this interesting tack. You really want dialogues on the whizbang feeling you get about some very specific data points that inspire you so much that you appear to love to speak about them endlessly, Ra or Chang or Atlantis; but then you don't actually seem to contribute much to dialogue. It's odd to hear myself saying that but it's an attempt to diagnose.

When I ask what you've got in reality, it's all generic maybes and kindas. When I supply my own definite beliefs, those too are met by more of the same. You seem committed to truth while also not responsible to select any particular truth beyond that original commitment while also excessively evangelistic about particular experiences about how great these things make you feel and how much you want to talk about them yet without saying anything committal.

Well, there seems to be a little bit of pent-up analysis coming out fast now that I've opened that valve a little bit.

To take it somewhere, OP is: "The way I see things, these two sources explain existence, the state of our world, and the meaning of life far more accurately than any other." I respond that HH is just recycling simple illuminatist talk like I could fake anytime (who's to say I haven't or won't) and isn't even consistent. You're literally (Add:) DEFENDING a Hollow Earther according to HH on 10-24 21:53 and you're literally defending that as the most accurate explanation of any in the world. Now you could back off and say, no, what you mean is that the general picture of the devil actually being good (by his own judgment) is the most accurate general picture of all, the specifics are unimportant, but (a) that's not what you said and (b) that too is merely a theodicy copout that we haven't plumbed yet between us.

So can we at least find out what you actually mean in OP without saying Hollow Earth is more accurate than anything? Can you come down on a solid position such as "Helel is a Good Moral Agent" or do you just want to continue playing gadfly and pretending you're not getting bugzapped?

u/Graphenium, you didn't pick up on my prior thoughts here.

Since I met you, you've had this interesting tack. You really want dialogues on the whizbang feeling you get about some very specific data points that inspire you so much that you appear to love to speak about them endlessly, Ra or Chang or Atlantis; but then you don't actually seem to contribute much to dialogue. It's odd to hear myself saying that but it's an attempt to diagnose.

When I ask what you've got in reality, it's all generic maybes and kindas. When I supply my own definite beliefs, those too are met by more of the same. You seem committed to truth while also not responsible to select any particular truth beyond that original commitment while also excessively evangelistic about particular experiences about how great these things make you feel and how much you want to talk about them yet without saying anything committal.

Well, there seems to be a little bit of pent-up analysis coming out fast now that I've opened that valve a little bit.

To take it somewhere, OP is: "The way I see things, these two sources explain existence, the state of our world, and the meaning of life far more accurately than any other." I respond that HH is just recycling simple illuminatist talk like I could fake anytime (who's to say I haven't or won't) and isn't even consistent. You're literally a Hollow Earther according to HH on 10-24 21:53 and you're literally defending that as the most accurate explanation of any in the world. Now you could back off and say, no, what you mean is that the general picture of the devil actually being good (by his own judgment) is the most accurate general picture of all, the specifics are unimportant, but (a) that's not what you said and (b) that too is merely a theodicy copout that we haven't plumbed yet between us.

So can we at least find out what you actually mean in OP without saying Hollow Earth is more accurate than anything? Can you come down on a solid position such as "Helel is a Good Moral Agent" or do you just want to continue playing gadfly and pretending you're not getting bugzapped?