Yeah communist apologists (not talking about you) like to say this a lot ("that was not real communism"). But I can't see how an economy that surrenders everything to the collective is sustainable.

Humans are self-centered. We like to own assets to safeguard our future. So unless someone exists that wields power to snatch away anything we might have collected. that's exactly what we will do. That someone will have to be a central authority everyone can agree on (i.e. a government). As soon as you remove government or at least government powers, people will begin to collect.

For those who are efficient and able to generate surplus value, it is rational to to work for themselves (private enterprise) and collect all the surplus value created rather than surrender it all. So basically unless the government also runs enterprises, private ones will pop up.

No rational human will surrender their entire surplus to the collective (it is irrational). I'm not well read on it, but from what you say, Communism doesn't seem like it's based on rational thinking (unlike game theory for example).

Yeah communist apologists (not talking about you) like to say this a lot ("that was not real communism"). But I can't see how an economy that surrenders everything to the collective is sustainable.

Humans are self-centered. We like to own assets to safeguard our future. So unless someone exists that wields power to snatch away anything we might have collected. that's exactly what we will do. That someone will have to be a central authority everyone can agree on (i.e. a government). As soon as you remove government or at least government powers, people will begin to collect.

For those who are efficient and able to generate surplus value, it is rational to to work for themselves (private enterprise) and collect all the surplus value created rather than surrender it all. So basically unless the government also runs enterprises, private ones will pop up.

No rational human will surrender their entire surplus to the collective (it is irrational). I'm not well read on it, but from what you say, Communism doesn't seem like it's based on rational thinking (unlike game theory for example).

Yeah communist apologists (not talking about you) like to say this a lot ("that was not real communism"). But I can't see how an economy that surrenders everything to the collective is sustainable.

Humans are self-centered. We like to own assets to safeguard our future. So unless someone exists that wields power to snatch away anything we might have collected. that's exactly what we will do. That someone will have to be a central authority everyone can agree on (i.e. a government). As soon as you remove government or at least government powers, people will begin to collect.

For those who are efficient and able to generate surplus value, it is rational to to work for themselves (private enterprise) and collect all the surplus value created rather than surrender it all. So basically unless the government also runs enterprises, private ones will pop up.

No rational human will surrender their entire surplus to the collective (it is irrational). I'm not well read on it, but from what you say, Communism doesn't seem like it's based on rational thinking (unlike game theory for example). If so, then Marx seems dumb.

Yeah communist apologists (not talking about you) like to say this a lot ("that was not real communism"). But I can't see how an economy that surrenders everything to the collective is sustainable.

Humans are self-centered. We like to own assets to safeguard our future. So unless someone exists that wields power to snatch away anything we might have collected. that's exactly what we will do. That someone will have to be a central authority everyone can agree on (i.e. a government). As soon as you remove government or at least government powers, people will begin to collect.

For those who are efficient and able to generate surplus value, it is rational to to work for themselves (private enterprise) and collect all the surplus value created rather than surrender it all. So basically unless the government also runs enterprises, private ones will pop up.

No rational human will surrender their entire surplus to the collective (it is irrational). Communism doesn't seem like it's based on rational thinking (unlike game theory for example), but I'll have to give it a close read.