Are you trying to gaslight me right now? Are you actually trying to claim that Ver and his Bitcoin Unlimited plans weren't part of the main push to fork away from the main chain?

I was there too bro, watched it all happen. You being a miner means literally nothing in terms of knowledge. I could just as easily say "No YOU fell for the propaganda" like you're trying to claim I did.

Censorship alone will tell you where the truth is

Is this an r/bitcoin reference? Otherwise I have no idea what you're referring to. And if it is, that censorship was a DIRECT result of fighting against the non-stop shill campaigns that Ver was paying for there. Then they all cried victim when mods did something about it. Again, I was there for all of it.

My logic and critical thinking skills are doing just fine, and have lead me to the exact conclusion I've laid out. I gave BCH and the "real Satoshi's vision" crowd PLENTY of chances to prove themselves, and each time they failed. I even went down to Mexico for Jeff Berwick's crypto conference to hear them out and give them a fair shake. Not only did they not deliver on any real supporting evidence for their claims, but they would lie on stage directly about BCH's functionality (that was the point that sealed it for me).

Guys like Jeff and Roger and Jihan, and several others in that community just scream scammers to me. So many red flags, and the dishonest tactics they implemented in what they saw as a "war for the name bitcoin" made me never want to support anything with their names near it.

Again, you've provided ZERO information to counter anything I just said, only claimed that I'm "100% wrong and have bought into the propaganda that Blockstream peddled" (which by the way, is the only argument I ever see from Bcashers, and never any actual evidence or legitimate arguments to support why I should support BCH over BTC).

Then you recommend a sub (r/btc) that fucking banned me 2 years ago simply for asking the same questions I asked down in Mexico but never got answers to! And then you try to claim that r/bitcoin is where you'll get banned for asking questions? You get banned for being a BCH shill, which sure it's a bit subjective, but understandable if you were there to see what the shilling campaigns there looked like a few years ago. You can't bullshit someone who knows what their talking about, and it appears to me that you are quite full of bull shit. (Though I appreciate this discussion we're having anyway, and if you want to keep it going I'm still open to hearing why BCH will one day surpass BTC as the "real bitcoin").

But don't give me that "you're 100% wrong" bull shit, because I am not, and I have done the research. More than likely 99% of the people you've talked about this with before.

Edit: Also, not for nothing, but i would be interested to hear your take on how me saying "Roger Ver and the Chinese miners tried to hijack Bitcoin so they could implement untested and unproven increases to the block size that would have led to a massive centralization of power into the hands of the biggest miners."

Are you trying to gaslight me right now? Are you actually trying to claim that Ver and his Bitcoin Unlimited plans weren't part of the main push to fork away from the main chain?

I was there too bro, watched it all happen. You being a miner means literally nothing in terms of knowledge. I could just as easily say "No YOU fell for the propaganda" like you're trying to claim I did.

Censorship alone will tell you where the truth is

Is this an r/bitcoin reference? Otherwise I have no idea what you're referring to. And if it is, that censorship was a DIRECT result of fighting against the non-stop shill campaigns that Ver was paying for there. Then they all cried victim when mods did something about it. Again, I was there for all of it.

My logic and critical thinking skills are doing just fine, and have lead me to the exact conclusion I've laid out. I gave BCH and the "real Satoshi's vision" crowd PLENTY of chances to prove themselves, and each time they failed. I even went down to Mexico for Jeff Berwick's crypto conference to hear them out and give them a fair shake. Not only did they not deliver on any real supporting evidence for their claims, but they would lie on stage directly about BCH's functionality (that was the point that sealed it for me).

Guys like Jeff and Roger and Jihan, and several others in that community just scream scammers to me. So many red flags, and the dishonest tactics they implemented in what they saw as a "war for the name bitcoin" made me never want to support anything with their names near it.

Again, you've provided ZERO information to counter anything I just said, only claimed that I'm "100% wrong and have bought into the propaganda that Blockstream peddled" (which by the way, is the only argument I ever see from Bcashers, and never any actual evidence or legitimate arguments to support why I should support BCH over BTC).

Then you recommend a sub (r/btc) that fucking banned me 2 years ago simply for asking the same questions I asked down in Mexico but never got answers to! And then you try to claim that r/bitcoin is where you'll get banned for asking questions? You can't bullshit someone who knows what their talking about, and it appears to me that you are quite full of bull shit. (Though I appreciate this discussion we're having anyway, and if you want to keep it going I'm still open to hearing why BCH will one day surpass BTC as the "real bitcoin").

But don't give me that "you're 100% wrong" bull shit, because I am not, and I have done the research. More than likely 99% of the people you've talked about this with before.

Edit: Also, not for nothing, but i would be interested to hear your take on how me saying "Roger Ver and the Chinese miners tried to hijack Bitcoin so they could implement untested and unproven increases to the block size that would have led to a massive centralization of power into the hands of the biggest miners."

Are you trying to gaslight me right now? Are you actually trying to claim that Ver and his Bitcoin Unlimited plans weren't part of the main push to fork away from the main chain?

I was there too bro, watched it all happen. You being a miner means literally nothing in terms of knowledge. I could just as easily say "No YOU fell for the propaganda" like you're trying to claim I did.

Censorship alone will tell you where the truth is

Is this an r/bitcoin reference? Otherwise I have no idea what you're referring to. And if it is, that censorship was a DIRECT result of fighting against the non-stop shill campaigns that Ver was paying for there. Then they all cried victim when mods did something about it. Again, I was there for all of it.

My logic and critical thinking skills are doing just fine, and have lead me to the exact conclusion I've laid out. I gave BCH and the "real Satoshi's vision" crowd PLENTY of chances to prove themselves, and each time they failed. I even went down to Mexico for Jeff Berwick's crypto conference to hear them out and give them a fair shake. Not only did they not deliver on any real supporting evidence for their claims, but they would lie on stage directly about BCH's functionality (that was the point that sealed it for me).

Guys like Jeff and Roger and Jihan, and several others in that community just scream scammers to me. So many red flags, and the dishonest tactics they implemented in what they saw as a "war for the name bitcoin" made me never want to support anything with their names near it.

Again, you've provided ZERO information to counter anything I just said, only claimed that I'm "100% wrong and have bought into the propaganda that Blockstream peddled" (which by the way, is the only argument I ever see from Bcashers, and never any actual evidence or legitimate arguments to support why I should support BCH over BTC).

Then you recommend a sub (r/btc) that fucking banned me 2 years ago simply for asking the same questions I asked down in Mexico but never got answers to! And then you try to claim that r/bitcoin is where you'll get banned for asking questions? You can't bullshit someone who knows what their talking about, and it appears to me that you are quite full of bull shit. (Though I appreciate this discussion we're having anyway, and if you want to keep it going I'm still open to hearing why BCH will one day surpass BTC as the "real bitcoin").

But don't give me that "you're 100% wrong" bull shit, because I am not, and I have done the research. More than likely 99% of the people you've talked about this with before.