Martyrdom is the suffering or death imposed on a person due to their adherence to a religious faith or cause.
You think all those suicide bombers would have done what they did if they didnt figure they were going to get 32 virgins? They bought a lie and proceeded to sacrifice themselves to it. There was way more than 12 of them too. Why did god see fit to torture all christs most faithful, too? Was it because the creators of christianity realized that people like you would buy the whole martyr thing hook line and sinker? "Nobody woupd ever die for a lie". You realize how dumb that shit is at least, right? No, you are lost.
The came to you as a child and managed to convince you that there was some dude in the sky always watching you, and you better be faithful to him and live your life the way the church tells you, or else you will go down to the pit of centaurs for all eternity. All you need to do is kiss the ring to be forgiven and swear fealty to your myth.
Sum it up pretty well for you? Or do you believe in santa clause too? Its a psyop, meant to control the peons. Just like santy clause.. better watch out, you better not cry!!
There is a hole in your logic wide enough to drive a truck through. The difference between the followers of Jesus who died by martyrdom and some poor sucker who blew himself up thinking he's going to get some virgins in heaven, is that the followers of Jesus who KNEW him. Had it been a lie they propagated, for which NONE of them profited in money or power or sex like Mohammed or Joseph Smith, they could have recanted to avoid grisly death. Yet none of them did.
This doesn't prove Christianity to be true, I know that, and I'm sure you do too. But it does show they believed, and gained nothing, and died for it. The Jews would have loved to have paraded out an apostle who said that they made it all up.
So pretty much you're making the same Jewish arguments the apostles dealt with 2,000 years ago.
Anyway, I might reply tomorrow, if you come up with new material. It's late in my time zone.
People believed things and gained nothing but death since the beginning of time.
Thats why martrydom is powerful. Because it convinces people a cause is worth dying for. No need to argue with you, you are indoctrinated. Go to sleep. See if god comes to you in a dream with some proof of his miracles you can share. Just like i wouldnt be able to convince a trans to detrans. I dont even want to convince you there isnt a god. You do you. But i will call out bullshit when i see it, and maybe itll make you question why you became trans. You wouldnt have bought any of this fantastical bullshit if it wasnt hammered in when you were young. Livijg proof right here
Mohmmedians died in battle, seeking treasure and sex slaves, not in martyrdom, you silly goose.
Martyrdom is the suffering or death imposed on a person due to their adherence to a religious faith or cause. You think all those suicide bombers would have done what they did if they didnt figure they were going to get 32 virgins? They bought a lie and proceeded to sacrifice themselves to it. There was way more than 12 of them too. Why did god see fit to torture all christs most faithful, too? Was it because the creators of christianity realized that people like you would buy the whole martyr thing hook line and sinker? "Nobody woupd ever die for a lie". You realize how dumb that shit is at least, right? No, you are lost. The came to you as a child and managed to convince you that there was some dude in the sky always watching you, and you better be faithful to him and live your life the way the church tells you, or else you will go down to the pit of centaurs for all eternity. All you need to do is kiss the ring to be forgiven and swear fealty to your myth. Sum it up pretty well for you? Or do you believe in santa clause too? Its a psyop, meant to control the peons. Just like santy clause.. better watch out, you better not cry!!
There is a hole in your logic wide enough to drive a truck through. The difference between the followers of Jesus who died by martyrdom and some poor sucker who blew himself up thinking he's going to get some virgins in heaven, is that the followers of Jesus who KNEW him. Had it been a lie they propagated, for which NONE of them profited in money or power or sex like Mohammed or Joseph Smith, they could have recanted to avoid grisly death. Yet none of them did.
This doesn't prove Christianity to be true, I know that, and I'm sure you do too. But it does show they believed, and gained nothing, and died for it. The Jews would have loved to have paraded out an apostle who said that they made it all up.
So pretty much you're making the same Jewish arguments the apostles dealt with 2,000 years ago.
Anyway, I might reply tomorrow, if you come up with new material. It's late in my time zone.
People believed things and gained nothing but death since the beginning of time. Thats why martrydom is powerful. Because it convinces people a cause is worth dying for. No need to argue with you, you are indoctrinated. Go to sleep. See if god comes to you in a dream with some proof of his miracles you can share. Just like i wouldnt be able to convince a trans to detrans. I dont even want to convince you there isnt a god. You do you. But i will call out bullshit when i see it, and maybe itll make you question why you became trans. You wouldnt have bought any of this fantastical bullshit if it wasnt hammered in when you were young. Livijg proof right here