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The idols of the nations are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 30 days ago by PraiseGod 30 days ago by PraiseGod +10 / -0
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– Pelecanus 1 point 12 days ago +1 / -0

Exactly, polytheism

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 12 days ago +1 / -0

Like a three leaf clover, separate but one, the trinity is not polytheistic. Believe what you will.

I am guessing you are a Mohammedian. Yes?

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– Pelecanus 1 point 12 days ago +1 / -0

Nah, I'm not.

How does God beget a Son that's still himself?

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– Mad_King_Kalak 1 point 11 days ago +1 / -0

Puhlease, you're using all the common online Mohammedian apologist talking points. Momma Kalak didn't raise no fools. Atheists just mock and dismiss.

I'll get into a detailed theological debate on the nature of the trinity with you, if you answer why you want me to answer.

That said, in short, the Trinity is three distinct persons that are still one God, consubstantial as it were. From that statement, your question only makes limited sense.

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– Pelecanus 1 point 11 days ago +1 / -0

Nah, I'm a Pelicanian.

I want you to answer about your trinity cuz I don't see how you Christians reason that God is composed of three distinct persons and it's not polytheism. What kind of definitions are you using for God and person there? And what in the world is consubstantiation?

Have you ever looked at how different the Apostles creed, Nicene creed, and Athanasian creeds are? The first two say they believe in one God, the Father. Nothing about a trinity or distinct persons of God. The Apostles creed calls Jesus God's Son and portrays him as an exalted man that is sitting beside God in heaven. It's really vague about the Holy Spirit.

The Nicene creed introduces the polytheism where it starts off saying that the Father is God, then says that Jesus is the begotten Son of God and also is a God. That's two. You don't get "God from God" unless you have one God and then another one. If you start with a batch of cookie dough and make two cookies, the cookies are made out of the same Essence, but they're two cookies and not one cookie. If, before you cook the two cookies you take some of the dough from each to make a third cookie, it proceeds from the other two, but is still a third cookie. When you bake them, you have have three cookies, not one.

The polytheism is cemented in the Athanasian creed. It doesn't start by calling God, the Father. It dives straight into God being a trinity of Gods that are considered one God through sharing of some kind of essence. It says that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. That's three, not one. And it's this undefined thing called Essence that's the actual God, not the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit. Those things are only these alleged persons of that Essence. Instead of a Trinity, it should be called a Quadrinity with the Essence being the God above the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. You can call those things God, but none of those Persons or Gods is the actual one God you claim to worship. At what point do you simply accept that you worship multiple Gods?

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