That is what I was assuming you meant. I figured that this was some Eric Duvey "200 proofs" sort of argument. That is why I posted that something that is "hovering" will remain over the same spot on the ground simply by the definition of the word "hover," and since it remains over the same spot on the ground, when it descends it lands on the same spot it raised off of initially. There is nothing mysterious about this happening.
I gotta say, I really try to remain open to the flat earth and other "globe rejecting" people. I'm not "triggered" by flat earth, as the meme goes. I try to hear them out and watch their documentaries or whatever to see if anyone has a good argument for their position. I always see things like this, and as respectfully as possible, this is why so many people do not take flat earth people seriously.
There is a difference between thinking the globe model is wrong and saying you have found a situation where the globe model makes an incorrect prediction. If you think "the spinning ball" is false then that is fine, people are entitled to their opinions and beliefs. But saying you found someplace where it makes an incorrect prediction is not an opinion, it is a factual claim. In all honesty, do you really believe that helicopter hovering is mechanically inconsistent with and cannot be explained by the globe model? I mean, is that honestly your understanding of the so called "spinning ball"?
OK. I guess I just have a hard time understanding how people have a hard time understanding this. I used to think that flat earth was all fake and there weren't actually people who believed it. I have come around to the idea that some people really do believe it in good faith, and those people are generally allies on most issues.
I don't really have a problem with it. I just find it bizarre I guess. As far as hovering goes, what someone does when they hover a helicopter is they hold it steady over a spot on the earth. That is what the word "hover" means in English. The way the pilot knows he is hovering is by watching the earth and adjusting the craft to stay over the same spot. So, by definition, the craft is staying over the same spot. The pilot is just adjusting the controls to ensure that this happens based on what he sees the craft doing relative to the ground.
This is why I said "if you fly 500 miles per hour north for an hour, you land 500 miles north of where you started." It is literally the same thing as hovering being remaining over one spot. You are just stating what the pilot is doing using English words.
If u go back to my first comment I explained pretty clearly but ill be more specific
if the coptor goes straight up in the air 90° straight up
Hovers for hours, no adjustments no controls just stay hovering without any lateral movement..
The coptor after hours of being in the sky in that same position will come back down to the ground in the exact same spot it took off from. Exact same spot.
I thought it would've been assumed that it makes no sense for that to happen because of the supposed spin of the earth.
Exactly what the post is about..
That is what I was assuming you meant. I figured that this was some Eric Duvey "200 proofs" sort of argument. That is why I posted that something that is "hovering" will remain over the same spot on the ground simply by the definition of the word "hover," and since it remains over the same spot on the ground, when it descends it lands on the same spot it raised off of initially. There is nothing mysterious about this happening.
I gotta say, I really try to remain open to the flat earth and other "globe rejecting" people. I'm not "triggered" by flat earth, as the meme goes. I try to hear them out and watch their documentaries or whatever to see if anyone has a good argument for their position. I always see things like this, and as respectfully as possible, this is why so many people do not take flat earth people seriously.
There is a difference between thinking the globe model is wrong and saying you have found a situation where the globe model makes an incorrect prediction. If you think "the spinning ball" is false then that is fine, people are entitled to their opinions and beliefs. But saying you found someplace where it makes an incorrect prediction is not an opinion, it is a factual claim. In all honesty, do you really believe that helicopter hovering is mechanically inconsistent with and cannot be explained by the globe model? I mean, is that honestly your understanding of the so called "spinning ball"?
Its nice you're open minded to question things. It's called critical thinking
What u said there lacked any all common sense. If something is hovering over a spinning earth than it should not land in the same spot. Simple as...
I'll go with what my eyes, ears and plain old common sense over what a bunch of masons and jesuits changed world wide a couple of centuries ago.
U keep on trusting the word of known liars but again try to be a lil more opened minded. I was guilty of that arrogance myself not to long ago.
OK. I guess I just have a hard time understanding how people have a hard time understanding this. I used to think that flat earth was all fake and there weren't actually people who believed it. I have come around to the idea that some people really do believe it in good faith, and those people are generally allies on most issues.
I don't really have a problem with it. I just find it bizarre I guess. As far as hovering goes, what someone does when they hover a helicopter is they hold it steady over a spot on the earth. That is what the word "hover" means in English. The way the pilot knows he is hovering is by watching the earth and adjusting the craft to stay over the same spot. So, by definition, the craft is staying over the same spot. The pilot is just adjusting the controls to ensure that this happens based on what he sees the craft doing relative to the ground.
This is why I said "if you fly 500 miles per hour north for an hour, you land 500 miles north of where you started." It is literally the same thing as hovering being remaining over one spot. You are just stating what the pilot is doing using English words.
If u go back to my first comment I explained pretty clearly but ill be more specific
if the coptor goes straight up in the air 90° straight up
Hovers for hours, no adjustments no controls just stay hovering without any lateral movement..
The coptor after hours of being in the sky in that same position will come back down to the ground in the exact same spot it took off from. Exact same spot.
How is that possible if the earth is spinning?