Jesus acknowledged that the Jews were the descendants of Abraham, but that they weren’t the “children of Abraham” or the “children of God” anymore, but the “children of the devil”. Since Abraham is not their father, but the devil is, the promises that God gave to Abraham of those blessing Abrahams children being blessed does not apply to the Jews. They rejected Christ and are the children of the devil and not Abraham.
In John 8:37 Jesus said “I know you are Abraham’s descendants”.
in vs. 38, “If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would[c] do what Abraham did.”
In vs 42, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God.
In vs 44, “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.“
Jesus is coming back to reign in person in Jerusalem, when that happens it will be the holy city of God, or Zion, in the most technical sense and is the only Zion I recognize.
That’s a fair point, I don’t think it has to do with Jews but with the “children of God”.
Some of those children are Jews as well as Gentiles and Ephraimites (which encompasses the rest of the tribes to be united). I'm also expecting to be suprised by Ishmael, for the good.
That’s fair, I don’t disagree. God will be a righteous judge and rightly decide who can inhabit that land.
I wholeheartedly concur!
This was very good to think out, thanks for the conversation. I could talk about this stuff allday
Have you been around the c/Eschatology board?
This is good:
[c/Eschatology](https://communities.win/c/Eschatology) /c/Eschatology/p/19AduSDIms/who-is-ephraim-and-what-does-tha/c
Edit: it's a crosspost so original is at c/Christianity /c/Christianity/p/19AduSDIij/
Neither link are linking right and I forget the fix right now...
to be continued...
This is the real link anyway: https://web.archive.org/web/20250316214559/https://www.hebrewrootsmelbourne.com/post/ephraim-and-rachel