Time to relocate to private and anonymous systems only or move offline and start preparing your underground bunker and food supplies and building a small community doing the same.
It's always worth preparing and to have hope. I do find these 'bunker/prepping' arguments without perspective. If a true collapse occurs (3rd World Warlord Style Mad Max scenario) then no amount of prepping, short of a million-dollar compound with well-trained people, will lead to 'survival' or anything resembling life today...and maybe that isn't even enough.
Once the collapse occurs, that means the end for all of us and I don't think preppers have mentally registered that. Somehow they think 55 gallon drums of water, 1000 rounds of ammunition, the pile of Chinese shit they bought off amazon and their suburban right-wing friend that lives down the street will perpetuate a semblance of normal, or tolerable life. I don't believe that to be the case.
I think if you live in the middle of nowhere and there isn't something like nuclear fallout preventing health crops and rainwater then you can make it without even a lot of preparation. Humans never needed anything more than stone tools to get by in non-extreme climates unless there was a famine or war. If you don't live in the middle of nowhere you are basically going to be in the war scenario unless you manage to get to nowhere and either know how to hunt/forage or have seeds and are fortunate enough to get there at the right time of year. But of course if there are killer robots or a genetically modified virus to deal with that changes the equation.
It might sound weird, but people who hide inside high security underground bunkers are always the first ones to get looted and die.
You probably have to run to the woods with minimal personal belongings and be prepared to hunt, have a weapon at hand and restock ammo. And don't get found or surrounded.
It's a fucking collapse. Do you know what will happen if you hole yourself in a place like that when looters and warlords are walking around looking for easy prey?
I'm not disagreeing with you (assuming your bunker is noticeable or you told people about it) but you spoke as if you've been through the apocalypse several times before
Time to relocate to private and anonymous systems only or move offline and start preparing your underground bunker and food supplies and building a small community doing the same.
It's always worth preparing and to have hope. I do find these 'bunker/prepping' arguments without perspective. If a true collapse occurs (3rd World Warlord Style Mad Max scenario) then no amount of prepping, short of a million-dollar compound with well-trained people, will lead to 'survival' or anything resembling life today...and maybe that isn't even enough.
Once the collapse occurs, that means the end for all of us and I don't think preppers have mentally registered that. Somehow they think 55 gallon drums of water, 1000 rounds of ammunition, the pile of Chinese shit they bought off amazon and their suburban right-wing friend that lives down the street will perpetuate a semblance of normal, or tolerable life. I don't believe that to be the case.
I think if you live in the middle of nowhere and there isn't something like nuclear fallout preventing health crops and rainwater then you can make it without even a lot of preparation. Humans never needed anything more than stone tools to get by in non-extreme climates unless there was a famine or war. If you don't live in the middle of nowhere you are basically going to be in the war scenario unless you manage to get to nowhere and either know how to hunt/forage or have seeds and are fortunate enough to get there at the right time of year. But of course if there are killer robots or a genetically modified virus to deal with that changes the equation.
It might sound weird, but people who hide inside high security underground bunkers are always the first ones to get looted and die.
You probably have to run to the woods with minimal personal belongings and be prepared to hunt, have a weapon at hand and restock ammo. And don't get found or surrounded.
How many times have you done this before?
It's a fucking collapse. Do you know what will happen if you hole yourself in a place like that when looters and warlords are walking around looking for easy prey?
I'm not disagreeing with you (assuming your bunker is noticeable or you told people about it) but you spoke as if you've been through the apocalypse several times before