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I think everyone is at varying degrees of growth and I know God is never not working and it helps me be more patient with everyone.
I had 3 reasons for starting in SR's group : (1) was Hoping... to Transition into a --> Spiritual Bible-learning... group, with emotionally-Functional Christians. (2) Share how daily Intimacy with God/Jesus IS what leads to being by Him over 1's life Saved. (not merely reading Bible a bazillion x, or even getting a "degree" for teaching it to others). (3) Share that the Abundant-life Jesus offers humanity involves us in soul+Mind+body (not merely a visible body/heart with some nebulous spirit) but no mind. = This along with our God- Intimacy is what enables God's children to interact from, & so enrich... other peace-loving people.
BUT the 2 toothy Hunting hounds (amidst others in there) careless of these 3 matters (in your current response), & each in their own way did & continues all they can to make it hell... for --> any 1 not<-- like them. And as predicted by Jesus, they turned what could have been a successful Group, into no small catastrophe. .
All I can offer is that there is a community for conflict if the parties involved are ever looking for resolution.
c/CommunitiesConflict
Unfortunately, that ( CommunitiesConflict ) is another of your... groups. Too, as the remaining troubleMakers are your "frens" as you often enuf tell them = Naturally you will continue Agreeing with them, no matter what, period. So obviously in this situation, you are Not a viable mediator.
And you said today, you find SR tells the truth (?). Five YEARS of Evidences in this matter do not quite agree. -- As (via many Direct posts & also 1 of my continual positive suggestions) I said what could & should be done, only for him to Ignore it; - while he is Fine letting troubleMakers continue to LIE about their enemy. So, he's proven to Not be a viable mediator, either.
How I know that (No emotionally un-involved people exist in nearly all RELIGIOUS situations), is that I have in my work served effectively as the mediator... where --> face-to-face<-- we reached Consensus & worked as a TEAM = which in those situations was the soul+mind+body Welfare of Individuals... in our Care. --> We actually sincerely Cared about people = what a Novel... concept<-- for people on the internet... who in 5 YEARS continue not giving a damn about others.
Yes, it needs some 1 Not emotionally involved, & able to remain Objective. -- But Thanks for trying to listen, & I won't bring it up again to you. And it looks like you are doing a good job in this place, so continue having fun :)
I would be totally ok if someone else could/would moderate.
Thanks for your compliment on the community :o)