I'm from EU and I definitely do not see any natalism here. If anything we are currently being ruled by a literal death cult. Currently they are doing everything they can to prevent people forming healthy families and having healthy and mentally sound kids. Almost all of the EU leaders are despicable abominations who hate their own people. They don't even try to hide it anymore. Also, it seems that Canada is on the way out as well. What with all their (heavily promoted) "voluntary" euthanasia policies and all that. I won't even mention UK, which is basically done at this point.
All in all, I'd say natalism is the last thing we should be worried about. It's the literal death cult that is ruling over us we should worry about. Sometimes they might be pretending to be for family or kids with all their digital id and similar shit, but in reality all of that works towards depopulation and polarisation of society all the same.
Do not argue about Natalism with that guy. He has been shifting blame from the Judeo Christian death matrix to the Natalists for some time.
Also the EU leaders now are all ideological descendants of "Saint" Paul and the "Twelve Apostles". The goal is revenge for Christianity's defeat in the Renaissance era.
Also the EU leaders now are all ideological descendants of "Saint" Paul and the "Twelve Apostles". The goal is revenge for Christianity's defeat in the Renaissance era.
Where did this come from? seems really out of any plausibility tbh.
There is not a single christian thought in any EU leader.
It is the utter annihilation, humiliation and torture of all human decency, intelligence, wisdom, science and rationality.
It preaches that you must forgive people whose intent is to torture, rape and kill you.
It preaches that a blood and death god and its disciples are the sole arbiters of all morality, philosophy and the arts.
It is the antithesis of human nature and the defiler of common sense.
It idealizes martyrs, blood sacrifice and plagues, wherever Christianity becomes dominant, starvation, feces and rat plagues follow.
It strips the normal men to the level of sewer mice and elevates the powerful to the level of God Emperors, turning normal people into disposable serfs while insulting a pope will bring you death.
It encourages ignorance and illiteracy and shuns the wise.
And it is now taking the form of Globalism, Communism and the DEI Agenda.
It is the utter annihilation, humiliation and torture of all human decency, intelligence, wisdom, science and rationality.
Nope, I'll give you a chance to think about it and see what you propose as an alternative.
It preaches that you must forgive people whose intent is to torture, rape and kill you.
No, it preaches that you can forgive, as Jesus did. Would you rather have a means to transcend evil, or would you rather live in fear that evil will destroy something you find important?
It preaches that a blood and death god and its disciples are the sole arbiters of all morality, philosophy and the arts.
How could he be a god if he didn't know how to use blood and death?
It idealizes martyrs, blood sacrifice and plagues, wherever Christianity becomes dominant, starvation, feces and rat plagues follow.
Not the testimony of western civilization.
It strips the normal men to the level of sewer mice and elevates the powerful to the level of God Emperors, turning normal people into disposable serfs while insulting a pope will bring you death.
You're literally quoting Trumpism, which isn't Christianity, sad to report. True Christianity admits that it's imperfect and so even as a Protestant I can identify with the papists who went too far and apologize on their behalf. Because it's about making it right and not just about having the complaint without ever resolving it.
Do what the Python troupe did in their unbelief: get the historical fact right that Jesus himself is untouchable, there's nothing in Jesus to ridicule, it's the entire world around him that is ridiculous. Christianity can be nothing without the person of Jesus. I will be happy to help work with you to right any wrong that has been done in his name, I'm empowered to by him. But it takes first a person reaching out with sincerity and asking for it to be made right, rather than being another complainer who lives to complain and would die if his complaints were all addressed perfectly. So we'll see which you are.
It is the utter annihilation, humiliation and torture of all human decency, intelligence, wisdom, science and rationality.
Wrong. It is the ORIGIN of all those. The fact you run run run proves NON-CHRISTIANITY is the annihilation, etc. of all human decency, etc.
It preaches that you must forgive people whose intent is to torture, rape and kill you.
Verse? Why exclusively those people?
Some people believe forgiving people who don't ask to be forgiven is a SIN.
It preaches that a blood and death god and its disciples are the sole arbiters of all morality, philosophy and the arts.
Strawman. "Oh look people die so God mean!! Reee!" Meanwhile, you have done less than God to save anyone. HYPOCRITE. "and its disciples are arbiters" No. Give a Verse. We rely on God not Disciples.
It is the antithesis of human nature
But you said it was made up by men. Pick one. You are doublethinking. 1984.
and the defiler of common sense.
So then the universe was created by an explosion? Thats no better and actually worse.
It idealizes martyrs,
Your point?
blood sacrifice
How so? Jesus was GOD. Not some rando like you.
and plagues,
Literally where? What do you count as "idealizing plagues"?
wherever Christianity becomes dominant, starvation, feces and rat plagues follow.
Never happened. Tell me where. Also, projection, wherever anti-Christian worldviews followed, all that bad stuff did. Unlike you I have examples: Mao, lenin, stalin, polpot.
It strips the normal men to the level of sewer mice
Verse wanted.
and elevates the powerful to the level of God Emperors,
Verse wanted.
turning normal people into disposable serfs while insulting a pope will bring you death.
"Let's blame the compromised catholicism religion's deeds on Christianity" is such a stupid move. Don't use it again.
It encourages ignorance and illiteracy and shuns the wise.
Wrong, you blatantly and shamelessly and STUPIDLY IGNORE Verses like Isaiah 1:18 : "Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool."
Matthew 23:37 : "And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’"
1 Peter 3:15 : "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;"
Nobody here (and likely in society) will believe you because you're WRONG.
And it is now taking the form of Globalism, Communism and the DEI Agenda.
Wrong, they are ATTACKING Christianity. Trannyism contradicts Genesis.
I'm from EU and I definitely do not see any natalism here. If anything we are currently being ruled by a literal death cult. Currently they are doing everything they can to prevent people forming healthy families and having healthy and mentally sound kids. Almost all of the EU leaders are despicable abominations who hate their own people. They don't even try to hide it anymore. Also, it seems that Canada is on the way out as well. What with all their (heavily promoted) "voluntary" euthanasia policies and all that. I won't even mention UK, which is basically done at this point.
All in all, I'd say natalism is the last thing we should be worried about. It's the literal death cult that is ruling over us we should worry about. Sometimes they might be pretending to be for family or kids with all their digital id and similar shit, but in reality all of that works towards depopulation and polarisation of society all the same.
Do not argue about Natalism with that guy. He has been shifting blame from the Judeo Christian death matrix to the Natalists for some time.
Also the EU leaders now are all ideological descendants of "Saint" Paul and the "Twelve Apostles". The goal is revenge for Christianity's defeat in the Renaissance era.
Where did this come from? seems really out of any plausibility tbh.
There is not a single christian thought in any EU leader.
You do not know what real "christian" thought is.
It is the utter annihilation, humiliation and torture of all human decency, intelligence, wisdom, science and rationality.
It preaches that you must forgive people whose intent is to torture, rape and kill you.
It preaches that a blood and death god and its disciples are the sole arbiters of all morality, philosophy and the arts.
It is the antithesis of human nature and the defiler of common sense.
It idealizes martyrs, blood sacrifice and plagues, wherever Christianity becomes dominant, starvation, feces and rat plagues follow.
It strips the normal men to the level of sewer mice and elevates the powerful to the level of God Emperors, turning normal people into disposable serfs while insulting a pope will bring you death.
It encourages ignorance and illiteracy and shuns the wise.
And it is now taking the form of Globalism, Communism and the DEI Agenda.
This is true Christianity.
Nope, I'll give you a chance to think about it and see what you propose as an alternative.
No, it preaches that you can forgive, as Jesus did. Would you rather have a means to transcend evil, or would you rather live in fear that evil will destroy something you find important?
How could he be a god if he didn't know how to use blood and death?
Not the testimony of western civilization.
You're literally quoting Trumpism, which isn't Christianity, sad to report. True Christianity admits that it's imperfect and so even as a Protestant I can identify with the papists who went too far and apologize on their behalf. Because it's about making it right and not just about having the complaint without ever resolving it.
Do what the Python troupe did in their unbelief: get the historical fact right that Jesus himself is untouchable, there's nothing in Jesus to ridicule, it's the entire world around him that is ridiculous. Christianity can be nothing without the person of Jesus. I will be happy to help work with you to right any wrong that has been done in his name, I'm empowered to by him. But it takes first a person reaching out with sincerity and asking for it to be made right, rather than being another complainer who lives to complain and would die if his complaints were all addressed perfectly. So we'll see which you are.
Obvious projection.
Wrong. It is the ORIGIN of all those. The fact you run run run proves NON-CHRISTIANITY is the annihilation, etc. of all human decency, etc.
Verse? Why exclusively those people?
Some people believe forgiving people who don't ask to be forgiven is a SIN.
Strawman. "Oh look people die so God mean!! Reee!" Meanwhile, you have done less than God to save anyone. HYPOCRITE. "and its disciples are arbiters" No. Give a Verse. We rely on God not Disciples.
But you said it was made up by men. Pick one. You are doublethinking. 1984.
So then the universe was created by an explosion? Thats no better and actually worse.
Your point?
How so? Jesus was GOD. Not some rando like you.
Literally where? What do you count as "idealizing plagues"?
Never happened. Tell me where. Also, projection, wherever anti-Christian worldviews followed, all that bad stuff did. Unlike you I have examples: Mao, lenin, stalin, polpot.
Verse wanted.
Verse wanted.
"Let's blame the compromised catholicism religion's deeds on Christianity" is such a stupid move. Don't use it again.
Wrong, you blatantly and shamelessly and STUPIDLY IGNORE Verses like Isaiah 1:18 : "Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are as scarlet, They will be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They will be like wool."
Matthew 23:37 : "And He said to him, “ ‘YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.’"
1 Peter 3:15 : "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;"
Nobody here (and likely in society) will believe you because you're WRONG.
Wrong, they are ATTACKING Christianity. Trannyism contradicts Genesis.
Cite Verses to back your wild claim.