I started a discussion post about having moderators... https://conspiracies.win/p/1ARJvlfrlu/discussion-after-axeotlpeotl-lef/
I take the blame for that... I wasn't expecting how shills in here would use it to their advantage... But I must inform you of their deeds:
u/SwampRangers used my post to promote himself as a mod to the community - https://communities.win/c/Meta/p/1ARK0LXq6i/cconspiracies-has-had-no-active-/ (1 day after I posted my original topic, and make note that he hasn't done anything of value to be a mod.)
u/Graphenium used the idea for roundtables 2 days after my original post - https://conspiracies.win/p/1ARK0MgEYm/community-roundtable-proposal-wh/ (take into account that his posts before that were 9 months ago... https://imgur.com/a/OHeNCaR - alt account of someone else? Who is silent for 9 months but becomes active when a mod discussion comes around?)
I would be more willing to elect a person, who was constantly active and didn't care about this mod vote... A person, who actually cares about the community, and not just to promote themselves...
Are there any such people left in here?
Additionally, I would like to add u/JosephGoebbel5 as a phony, who only floods the forum here. He thinks that spamming is somehow helpful for him. Yet, he can't defend his Nazi position when I challenged him. (He is apparently a nazi... I never thought that would be the case for any conspiracy researcher, but he never heard of Thule society, or how the swastika is a Hindu symbol...)
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The sequence was:
You suggest we "make a pool" for discussion, proposing "Rules" (like a mod) such as "Expose shills" (meta), adding "I don't review this forum daily" (which you later castigate others about not doing enough of) and "If you think that I shouldn't start this - make a DISCUSSION post about your best conspiracy topic" (which u/Graphenium does and you castigate him for).
I support your idea by being the only one to propose a topic, and I note the mod absence before anyone this cycle, "maybe we need a new mod".
You reply "I agree - no moderation in quite some time... Seems like an echo chamber in here... And if we don't fix it, who will?" and "I am an absolute idiot in moderation" (proposing the idea of you as mod before I propose me as mod) and "I can do the work - no problem for me, actually I like doing a lot of work... But if you can explain your words to a person, who was never a moderator" (though you are a Scored mod, and later say you have multiple communities but you only have one).
I continue deferring who the mod could be and explain how mods use stickies as you request.
You compliment me (is this simping?), "It's great that you're humble, but we need ideas! Honestly! Any idea is good", you notice "it's the only idea that is discussed" (the only answer to your question): then you give the big spitball (trial balloon), "this place has none active moderators... One solutions could be for you to create your own page and moderate it as well as you can, another would be to call for a community that would visit a forum and place certain people, that you trust, as moderators... If you want to create your own community, I will help with everything that I have. But I suck as a moderator. I can flag things for you, if you want, but I wouldn't want to make the final decisions. If you have an idea for a new commity, you have my full support! Many will benefit from such a place!" There you even ask me to select plural moderators and you offer to work for me but you don't apply it to modding this community for some reason, even though you discuss the idea of yourself modding this community.
I finally take your bait, "Well .... there are many ways to go with this .... This is also a situation where I'd consider moderating if the community would have me, because there isn't much burden there and I wouldn't promise anything other than objectivity .... I'll write something brief at Meta to see where it goes." Note that it's completely dependent on community approval, not appointment. At Meta I write among other things "Obviously, if u/Paleo or someone feels comfortable adding u/Neo1 and myself to the mod list as caretakers to see if anyone more ready-willing-able comes along, that seems like it would help".
You seal the deal: "Anyone here up to a vote? We need a moderator and u/SwampRangers offers his help. We have been without posts that unite our thinking for very long... We need a moderator urgently! Please cast your vote! It's ok if it is for yourself even .... You say you made 3 but you give up on your ego and promote a 4th one - not done by you... Respect for that! Honestly! I will visit them all, we need to expand! Hope others visit them too! .... You see collaboration and you work for it. I cast my vote for you as moderator of c/Conspiracies! To me, you have proven that you left your ego behind and you want to accomplish the goal of the community. That does come with challenges from shills that would want to break you, but I know you're better than me, so I cast my vote firmly towards a person that is able to defend his position and leave his ego - you! You didn't have to prove your worth, but you did it anyway, for the best of this community. I really hope you can help us forward! I hope we can vote for a moderator from this point on, so we can finalize it in a week. Anyone can cast their own votes. It's fine, if you vote for yourself even." You were speaking of simping?
So I promoted the two of us after you hypothesized yourself as mod first and after you proposed we two fix the lack of moderation.
Everything that came after that is all downhill from that deal. There had already been rival names suggested: I said in my reply to your vote "I'm losing track of how many people have suggested themselves for mod". A primary burr in your saddle was that I defended Will as harmless and wouldn't commit to ban him without giving him warnings. You didn't like my view on math, or forum-sliding, or Robert's Rules. Once you realized I wouldn't do everything you wanted, pfft. And bang bang.
Now you're saying you exposed some scheme of mine, which reads at first like projection. I see no crime whatsoever in the idea occurring to me that I might want to mod and my then discussing the subject neutrally, and, after you describe the hypothetical of you modding, my offering my services. But God will judge all schemes. What you approved of was us fixing the lack of moderation generically.
I never suggested myself as a mod, quit lying.
You used my post to promote yourself as a mod after 1 day.
https://communities.win/c/Meta/p/1ARK0LXq6i/cconspiracies-has-had-no-active-/
Keep lying, pal. I'll just keep on exposing you.
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You suggested and dismissed yourself as a mod when you said, "I agree - no moderation in quite some time... Seems like an echo chamber in here... And if we don't fix it, who will?" and "I am an absolute idiot in moderation".
I only promoted us two as mods after you promoted me as mod when you said, "this place has none active moderators... One solutions could be for you to create your own page and moderate it as well as you can, another would be to call for a community that would visit a forum and place certain people, that you trust, as moderators... If you want to create your own community, I will help with everything that I have. But I suck as a moderator. I can flag things for you, if you want, but I wouldn't want to make the final decisions. If you have an idea for a new commity, you have my full support! Many will benefit from such a place!"