Do you believe the Jews should be presented unavoidably with the message of Jesus Christ in case there are some who will believe? Or perhaps you believe the two-seed doctrine that they are essentially inhuman and unworthy of evangelism? In the latter case, it would be very strange that Jesus and a million of the first Christians came from the Jews, so it would seem that evangelism in hope seems the better approach.
In evangelizing the Jews, we must remove stumbling blocks and particularly inaccurate statements, which prevent our message from being accepted. If we want to criticize the Jews or the Talmud, we must stick to the facts and not join those who have literally been playing the telephone game for centuries and misquoting each other's views on what the Jews or Talmud say. It's my belief that some who pretend to criticize the Talmud here are actually being paid to make Talmud criticizers look dumb and to win sympathy for the Jews: because they don't criticize the Talmud for its actual problems but for things it doesn't say, so that what it does say that is problematic can be ignored too. If you're interested in truth-based criticism of the Talmud, you too should be prepared to reject false criticism of it, which weakens the reception of the true.
Jews should be presented unavoidably with the message of Jesus Christ
Today’s jews are presented with the truth, which is Jesus, every day of the week. Every hour and every minute, 24 hours a day. We live in the information age. What do they do? They reject it, constantly. Proof is all over the place, just take a look at Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Iran, Ukraine, and much more. I have yet to meet a jew who is awaken, but I have met many who are woke. It’s not the same thing. Today the Ashkenazi jews, whose ancestors originated in Central and Eastern Europe, make up 95% of world jewry. Ashkenazi means German in Hebrew. The term is used for Jews of eastern European origin who historically spoke the Yiddish language. Each and every Prime Minister of the state of Israel comes either directly from Eastern Europe or is removed by one generation therefrom. All 12 of them since 1948 have been Ashkenazi jews. I’m sure you know this already.
Jesus and a million of the first Christians came from the Jews
That’s what I mean by bullshit. Jesus was not a jew, there were no jews in his time. The word jew was invented much later and coined in the 18th century AD. You already know this. Jesus was not a jew he was a Judahite ("Yhuwdiy") of the bloodline of Judah, and an Israelite from Galilee.
People living in the area where Jesus was killed were called Judeans. A Judean is one who is a resident of Judea regardless of his religion, race, or nationality. The same you would say today about anyone living in United States, he/she is an American. The Judean historian Flavius Josephus describes how the Idumeans (Edomites) became known as “Judeans” through a forced conversion imposed by John Hyrcanus, who was the ruler of Judea around 130 BCE.
evangelizing the Jews
Be free to evangelize all you want, IMO it’s a waste of time. Zionism is from the Babylonian Talmud, and it’s the antithesis of the Bible. The Talmud teaches jews to hate gentiles, to steal from them, rape them, even kill them. There are plenty of people who criticize the Talmud. I won’t be one of them.
IMO, anything that is meant to divide people should be discarded. Not promoted and certainly not taught in schools.
Lifeway found via survey that about a million Jews believe Jesus is the Messiah. Yes, many Jews reject Jesus consciously, but many others are in a walled garden created to shield them from thinking about Jesus.
The current proportion of Ashkenazi among the Jews is about 75%, it was higher in the past but they are not reproducing or converting as fast as Chabad (or Messianism). I showed separately that their intermarriage with other Jews means they do have some Eastern European and some Semitic heritage just like any merger of peoples that does not erase the rights to continue the same polity.
Apparently you haven't been watching the other comments here about the etymology of "Jew". Jesus was a Ioudaios in Greek or Judaeus in Latin, and around 900 the French elided this word to Ju, before the Khazar conversion to Judaism had any influence. Here are 42 Scriptures where Jesus identifies as a Jew (Judahite and Judean). Spellings of "Jew" appeared in English in the 1200s. To say that "Jew" is not an ordinary elision used for the pre-Khazar Judahites and to pretend "Judaeus" and "Ju" are not the same people in early France where the short form originated is to ignore history and etymology.
Yes, Edomites were permitted to become Judeans by full naturalization including circumcision 150 years before Christ's ministry, which means their progeny were full Judeans by intermarriage, not a separate people. Jesus and the other Judeans were the same people.
I typically ask people to define "Zionism" because it's a weasel word that can mean anything.
The Talmud rightly quoted does not teach what you say. By saying that, you are indeed criticizing the Talmud, and that wrongly because you echo the telephone game of false charges that have been passed down and misheard for centuries. The Talmud is superstitious and insular but it does not teach hatred or destruction any more than the Bible teaches "There is no God" simply because that quote appears in the Psalms.
Lifeway found via survey that about a million Jews believe Jesus is the Messiah
This smells like bullshit to me. I don't care about surveys anyway. Let me be honest with you, I believe you're a jew. I'm not, but there are personal reasons I wish they could be saved. Let's just leave it at that.
They'll never accept Jesus, because they have no idea who or what he is. Heck, the Church, for the most part, doesn't know either. Only a miracle from the true God might change that. Like I said Jesus is the awakening, he is alive and he is the truth. All of it rejected by the jews today.
others are in a walled garden created to shield them from thinking about Jesus
IMO, jews don't need to think about Jesus, all they have to do is get rid of all their possessions, money, fame, prestige, "the chosen people" mentality, their Talmud, Zohar and Kabbalah. And stop lying and trying to cause division with their lies, in order to become rich. But, that is hard to do. "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom." - Matthew 19:24
etymology of "Jew". Jesus was a Ioudaios in Greek or Judaeus in Latin
I know about that.
Spellings of "Jew" appeared in English in the 1200s.
Go back and re-read my comment. I said the concept of jew was invented later, then the word jew was coined. The first time the word jew was used was in 1775 AD, when Sheridan used it in his play "The Rivals", II,i, "She shall have a skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew.". Even the letter J was only invented in the 16th century. It was first used as a letter by Gian Giorgio Trissino in 1524. However, the distinction between J and I as separate letters was not fully established until the 17th century. Trissino made the distinction from the Greek word “Iesus”, a translation of the Hebrew word “Yeshua”. He “found” that the proper spelling should be Jesus, as we now hear it in modern English.
Jesus and the other Judeans were the same people
No idea what that means. But I know this is confusing for most people. They worked very hard to conceal Jesus's identity. Most people in Judea (edomite jews) at the time of Jesus, to whom he had very harsh things to say, were not a part of any tribe of Israel, including the Tribe of Judah. They were a mixture of Babylonians, Cannanites, Hittites, but mainly Edomites.
Jesus was an Israelite. He was a direct descendant of Levi through Aaron. Levi was the third son of Jacob. Jacob was named Israel by God. Jesus was also a direct descendant of Judah through David. Judah was also a son of Jacob. Jacob’s sons were the first Israelites. Jesus was specifically an Israelite because he was a direct descendant of two of the sons of Jacob/Israel.
The Talmud rightly quoted does not teach what you say
It doesn't really matter what Talmud teaches or doesn't. Many jews today define themselves as jews only in an ethnic or cultural sense. Most are either agnostics or atheists. For instance Theodore Hertzl, considered the father of Zionism, was an atheist. And that applies to the rest of the Zionists that work hard on the project Israel. They lie.
I don't know you or your works. All I can tell from your replies, you're defending the jews and their talmud.
I have no idea what Jesus has shown you. But, as long as you're happy, I'm OK with that.
Do you believe the Jews should be presented unavoidably with the message of Jesus Christ in case there are some who will believe? Or perhaps you believe the two-seed doctrine that they are essentially inhuman and unworthy of evangelism? In the latter case, it would be very strange that Jesus and a million of the first Christians came from the Jews, so it would seem that evangelism in hope seems the better approach.
In evangelizing the Jews, we must remove stumbling blocks and particularly inaccurate statements, which prevent our message from being accepted. If we want to criticize the Jews or the Talmud, we must stick to the facts and not join those who have literally been playing the telephone game for centuries and misquoting each other's views on what the Jews or Talmud say. It's my belief that some who pretend to criticize the Talmud here are actually being paid to make Talmud criticizers look dumb and to win sympathy for the Jews: because they don't criticize the Talmud for its actual problems but for things it doesn't say, so that what it does say that is problematic can be ignored too. If you're interested in truth-based criticism of the Talmud, you too should be prepared to reject false criticism of it, which weakens the reception of the true.
Today’s jews are presented with the truth, which is Jesus, every day of the week. Every hour and every minute, 24 hours a day. We live in the information age. What do they do? They reject it, constantly. Proof is all over the place, just take a look at Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Iran, Ukraine, and much more. I have yet to meet a jew who is awaken, but I have met many who are woke. It’s not the same thing. Today the Ashkenazi jews, whose ancestors originated in Central and Eastern Europe, make up 95% of world jewry. Ashkenazi means German in Hebrew. The term is used for Jews of eastern European origin who historically spoke the Yiddish language. Each and every Prime Minister of the state of Israel comes either directly from Eastern Europe or is removed by one generation therefrom. All 12 of them since 1948 have been Ashkenazi jews. I’m sure you know this already.
That’s what I mean by bullshit. Jesus was not a jew, there were no jews in his time. The word jew was invented much later and coined in the 18th century AD. You already know this. Jesus was not a jew he was a Judahite ("Yhuwdiy") of the bloodline of Judah, and an Israelite from Galilee.
People living in the area where Jesus was killed were called Judeans. A Judean is one who is a resident of Judea regardless of his religion, race, or nationality. The same you would say today about anyone living in United States, he/she is an American. The Judean historian Flavius Josephus describes how the Idumeans (Edomites) became known as “Judeans” through a forced conversion imposed by John Hyrcanus, who was the ruler of Judea around 130 BCE.
Be free to evangelize all you want, IMO it’s a waste of time. Zionism is from the Babylonian Talmud, and it’s the antithesis of the Bible. The Talmud teaches jews to hate gentiles, to steal from them, rape them, even kill them. There are plenty of people who criticize the Talmud. I won’t be one of them.
IMO, anything that is meant to divide people should be discarded. Not promoted and certainly not taught in schools.
Lifeway found via survey that about a million Jews believe Jesus is the Messiah. Yes, many Jews reject Jesus consciously, but many others are in a walled garden created to shield them from thinking about Jesus.
The current proportion of Ashkenazi among the Jews is about 75%, it was higher in the past but they are not reproducing or converting as fast as Chabad (or Messianism). I showed separately that their intermarriage with other Jews means they do have some Eastern European and some Semitic heritage just like any merger of peoples that does not erase the rights to continue the same polity.
Apparently you haven't been watching the other comments here about the etymology of "Jew". Jesus was a Ioudaios in Greek or Judaeus in Latin, and around 900 the French elided this word to Ju, before the Khazar conversion to Judaism had any influence. Here are 42 Scriptures where Jesus identifies as a Jew (Judahite and Judean). Spellings of "Jew" appeared in English in the 1200s. To say that "Jew" is not an ordinary elision used for the pre-Khazar Judahites and to pretend "Judaeus" and "Ju" are not the same people in early France where the short form originated is to ignore history and etymology.
Yes, Edomites were permitted to become Judeans by full naturalization including circumcision 150 years before Christ's ministry, which means their progeny were full Judeans by intermarriage, not a separate people. Jesus and the other Judeans were the same people.
I typically ask people to define "Zionism" because it's a weasel word that can mean anything.
The Talmud rightly quoted does not teach what you say. By saying that, you are indeed criticizing the Talmud, and that wrongly because you echo the telephone game of false charges that have been passed down and misheard for centuries. The Talmud is superstitious and insular but it does not teach hatred or destruction any more than the Bible teaches "There is no God" simply because that quote appears in the Psalms.
So I deliver facts for those who are interested.
This smells like bullshit to me. I don't care about surveys anyway. Let me be honest with you, I believe you're a jew. I'm not, but there are personal reasons I wish they could be saved. Let's just leave it at that.
They'll never accept Jesus, because they have no idea who or what he is. Heck, the Church, for the most part, doesn't know either. Only a miracle from the true God might change that. Like I said Jesus is the awakening, he is alive and he is the truth. All of it rejected by the jews today.
IMO, jews don't need to think about Jesus, all they have to do is get rid of all their possessions, money, fame, prestige, "the chosen people" mentality, their Talmud, Zohar and Kabbalah. And stop lying and trying to cause division with their lies, in order to become rich. But, that is hard to do. "it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into God's kingdom." - Matthew 19:24
I know about that.
Go back and re-read my comment. I said the concept of jew was invented later, then the word jew was coined. The first time the word jew was used was in 1775 AD, when Sheridan used it in his play "The Rivals", II,i, "She shall have a skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew.". Even the letter J was only invented in the 16th century. It was first used as a letter by Gian Giorgio Trissino in 1524. However, the distinction between J and I as separate letters was not fully established until the 17th century. Trissino made the distinction from the Greek word “Iesus”, a translation of the Hebrew word “Yeshua”. He “found” that the proper spelling should be Jesus, as we now hear it in modern English.
No idea what that means. But I know this is confusing for most people. They worked very hard to conceal Jesus's identity. Most people in Judea (edomite jews) at the time of Jesus, to whom he had very harsh things to say, were not a part of any tribe of Israel, including the Tribe of Judah. They were a mixture of Babylonians, Cannanites, Hittites, but mainly Edomites.
Jesus was an Israelite. He was a direct descendant of Levi through Aaron. Levi was the third son of Jacob. Jacob was named Israel by God. Jesus was also a direct descendant of Judah through David. Judah was also a son of Jacob. Jacob’s sons were the first Israelites. Jesus was specifically an Israelite because he was a direct descendant of two of the sons of Jacob/Israel.
It doesn't really matter what Talmud teaches or doesn't. Many jews today define themselves as jews only in an ethnic or cultural sense. Most are either agnostics or atheists. For instance Theodore Hertzl, considered the father of Zionism, was an atheist. And that applies to the rest of the Zionists that work hard on the project Israel. They lie.
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