The real holocaust
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I don't care what you appreciate or don't. I will answer the way I choose to answer, and if you don't like what I have to say just block me.
Here is a verse where Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees, the ones today we call Talmudists. You can pray for them all you want, won't help. I'm not the one saying this, Jesus is. “But when John saw many Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he told them, "You children of serpents! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?” - Matthew 3:7
And, "How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door to the kingdom from heaven in people's faces. You don't go in yourselves, and you don't allow those who are trying to enter to go in. How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You devour widows' houses and say long prayers to cover it up. Therefore, you will receive greater condemnation! How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to make a single convert, and when this happens you make him twice as fit for hell as you are." - Matthew 23:13-15
Great, you spoke freely! Others don't, which is why I ask directly. I don't block.
That says the class is "many Pharisees and Sadducees" and "scribes". That logically implies by speaking to those individuals he's not speaking of any other generation. Plus we have the part about how you or I have a special revelation, which you're very probably subsuming under your recognition of the inspiration of Scripture and the Spirit's guiding you to interpret it. (Plus the text doesn't say "won't help", it says they were then "fit for hell" and "fleeing wrath" without any finality. I collected 45 Scriptures that are unambiguously about the final and irrevocable state of the wicked, so I'm surprised you didn't use that kind of language in reference to the Jews.)
Given that, it would appear that we do not have grammaticohistorical license to assume this text does speak about "collective mortal sin" or that it condemns every man, woman, and child among Talmudic Jews today without hope.
In context, the Church has power to exorcise anyone and to convict them in case God will change their hearts. I believe in evangelizing everyone and I often work with good news to Jews so that they might repent and accept Jesus like anyone else in the church. I don't believe any seed doctrine is capable of stopping God's power (funny how you defended seed doctrine not with genealogy but with party affiliation). You mention Edom, but those Edomites who joined the Jewish people intermarried so that the next generations remain Jewish, they didn't stay as an enclave until all the original Jewish people were dead or something. So I asked because I was interested, but it seems your Scriptures and personal revelation don't actually carry the case or meet the special burden of proof that we would need for such a sweeping assertion of irredeemability. Thanks!
These are the same people today we call jews. There is no doubt today’s jews are the descendants of the Pharisees. They themselves acknowledge that: "The Jewish religion, as it is today, traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single piece of literature . . . and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism.” – Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, 1948, Vol. 8, pg. 474
Modern Judaism is “Pharisaism” (aka Talmudism) and it's based on the belief of the Pharisees and today's Talmudists that only jews are human. Everyone else is considered to be sub-human, goyim (cattle) and only worth to be a slave. So, immediately we can say Talmud is completely opposed and contradicts the Bible. Both the OT and the NT. Today's jews are the Edomites then. And before that the Canaanites, and you can go all the way back to Abel: "And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar." - Mat 23:35
In Mathew chapter 23 Jesus calls the Pharisees for who they are, the Seed of the Serpent. Not merely the ones following "The Tradition of The Elders" (i.e. The Babylonian Talmud), but the actual children of serpents. And he is very clear, again you can pray as long as you want it won't help: "You snakes, you children of serpents! How can you escape being condemned to hell?" - Mat 23:33
Do you pay slavery reparations then? Because collectivism teaches that white Americans today are "the same people" as slaveowners. You do see the problem?
And when the OT prophets call humans animals (metaphorically), you're saying that's different from when the Talmud quotes the same OT prophets? You approvingly quote Jesus referring to people as animals, and then you fault Talmudism for doing exactly the same? That's projection, Patrick!
I would be happy to dialogue with you about the history of the Two-Seed movement and its unique philosophical challenges in Christianity, but I dialogue with people who use facts, logic, and reason. If you have trouble with questions like this you may not be interested.
Add: I see you are also antiheliocentric. Maybe my alt should talk to you instead, for everyone's safety; he's a mod of c/FlatEarth.
There are no more moral values being taught in America today. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.” - Barack Obama They teach you to be woke. Wokism is a mental illness, the result of systematic brainwashing. You call it teaching, I call it brainwashing. So, no I don’t see the problem.
I didn’t know there was such thing. Who coined this term “Two-Seed movement”? is it you? I know of the doctrine of the Two Seedline. The early Church, in fact the Celtic Church which was the second assembly after Jerusalem, was well aware of this. And of course the Celtic Church was a church not dominated by Rome. Is this what you’re referring to?
Facts & logic sounds good, the trouble: what may be facts and logic to you, may be nonsense to me. And vice versa. So, I only dialog with people without an agenda. Any agenda, political, religious, climate change, flat earth, old or new world, etc.
I’m not anti anything, I’m just sick and tired of bullshit. Sometimes is hard to distinguish nonsense from propaganda. Many people are simply stupid and speak before they think. But, most of the time this is by design to distract attention from what’s important. That there is a creator, and that Fallen Angels are real and have messed with us since the time of Enoch.