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Won't help. Nothing will. Once you understand Gen 3:15 you know there are two seeds. "I'll place hostility between you and the woman, between your offspring and her offspring. He'll strike you on the head, and you'll strike him on the heel." - Gen 3:15
And no one of them can be helped, look up the prophecy of Obadiah. "Then Jacob and Joseph will burn and consume Esau, and no survivor will remain from the house of Esau." - Oba 1:18 and remember ✡️ has stolen the identity of the people Israel.
Do you have a special revelation from the Spirit of Jesus Christ that a whole class of living Homo sapiens has sinned unto death irrevocably? Even if so, John doesn't say to stop praying for them, he only says that he gives no advice about that special case. But first you'd need to have evidence your judgment is a true special case and not just a knee jerk.
There is much archived on this, many tangents, so I appreciate your direct answer to the question I asked.
I don't care what you appreciate or don't. I will answer the way I choose to answer, and if you don't like what I have to say just block me.
Here is a verse where Jesus is speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees, the ones today we call Talmudists. You can pray for them all you want, won't help. I'm not the one saying this, Jesus is. “But when John saw many Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he told them, "You children of serpents! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?” - Matthew 3:7
And, "How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door to the kingdom from heaven in people's faces. You don't go in yourselves, and you don't allow those who are trying to enter to go in. How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You devour widows' houses and say long prayers to cover it up. Therefore, you will receive greater condemnation! How terrible it will be for you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to make a single convert, and when this happens you make him twice as fit for hell as you are." - Matthew 23:13-15
Great, you spoke freely! Others don't, which is why I ask directly. I don't block.
That says the class is "many Pharisees and Sadducees" and "scribes". That logically implies by speaking to those individuals he's not speaking of any other generation. Plus we have the part about how you or I have a special revelation, which you're very probably subsuming under your recognition of the inspiration of Scripture and the Spirit's guiding you to interpret it. (Plus the text doesn't say "won't help", it says they were then "fit for hell" and "fleeing wrath" without any finality. I collected 45 Scriptures that are unambiguously about the final and irrevocable state of the wicked, so I'm surprised you didn't use that kind of language in reference to the Jews.)
Given that, it would appear that we do not have grammaticohistorical license to assume this text does speak about "collective mortal sin" or that it condemns every man, woman, and child among Talmudic Jews today without hope.
In context, the Church has power to exorcise anyone and to convict them in case God will change their hearts. I believe in evangelizing everyone and I often work with good news to Jews so that they might repent and accept Jesus like anyone else in the church. I don't believe any seed doctrine is capable of stopping God's power (funny how you defended seed doctrine not with genealogy but with party affiliation). You mention Edom, but those Edomites who joined the Jewish people intermarried so that the next generations remain Jewish, they didn't stay as an enclave until all the original Jewish people were dead or something. So I asked because I was interested, but it seems your Scriptures and personal revelation don't actually carry the case or meet the special burden of proof that we would need for such a sweeping assertion of irredeemability. Thanks!
These are the same people today we call jews. There is no doubt today’s jews are the descendants of the Pharisees. They themselves acknowledge that: "The Jewish religion, as it is today, traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single piece of literature . . . and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism.” – Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, 1948, Vol. 8, pg. 474
Modern Judaism is “Pharisaism” (aka Talmudism) and it's based on the belief of the Pharisees and today's Talmudists that only jews are human. Everyone else is considered to be sub-human, goyim (cattle) and only worth to be a slave. So, immediately we can say Talmud is completely opposed and contradicts the Bible. Both the OT and the NT. Today's jews are the Edomites then. And before that the Canaanites, and you can go all the way back to Abel: "And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar." - Mat 23:35
In Mathew chapter 23 Jesus calls the Pharisees for who they are, the Seed of the Serpent. Not merely the ones following "The Tradition of The Elders" (i.e. The Babylonian Talmud), but the actual children of serpents. And he is very clear, again you can pray as long as you want it won't help: "You snakes, you children of serpents! How can you escape being condemned to hell?" - Mat 23:33