Watched Wonderland (2003), about the murders in 81. John Homes, involved. Noticed his long time girlfriend, she didn't die of AIDS, is still around, wrote a book.. "The road through Wonderland : surviving John Holmes", 508 pages.
"Schiller reveals the perilous road John Holmes led her down-- from drugs and addiction to beatings, arrests, forced prostitution, and being sold to the drug underworld. Surviving the horrific Wonderland murders, she entered protective custody, ran from the FBI, endured a heart-wrenching escape from John, and ultimately turned him in to the police"
Another odd thing with the Wonderland murders case, is you get this guy testifying..
Scott Thorson was a pivotal witness in the 1981 Wonderland gang murders case. He testified against gangster Eddie Nash, claiming he witnessed Nash and others torture a man named Holmes to reveal the identities of the assailants involved in the Wonderland murders.
Thorson's testimony was part of a major Hollywood-related crime case that led to him entering the federal witness protection program.
Role in the Wonderland case: Thorson, a former boyfriend of entertainer Liberace, testified in the prosecution of Eddie Nash, who was implicated in the 1981 quadruple murders at a house on Wonderland Avenue.
Witness testimony: Thorson stated he was present and witnessed Nash and others tying up and torturing John Holmes, a pornographic actor, in an attempt to identify the individuals who committed the murders.
Post-testimony: After his testimony in 1990, Thorson was placed in the federal witness protection program. He was later shot three times in 1991 when drug dealers broke into his hotel room.
Him and Liberace.. that movie with Matt Damon and Michael Douglas, Behind the Candelabra (2013) ‧ Romance/Drama ‧ 1h 58m.
So what the hell is this guy doing at Wonderland. The drugs.
I was thinking, there's no shenanigans going on with these Wonderland murders, like the Manson 69 murders. But just this Alice in Wonderland aspect and MKULTRA, mind control programming that most celebs go under, when growing up, raised in the Illuminati. There might be something odd going on with these Wonderland murders yet. Seems like just drug deals gone bad with those types of people. But I don't know. What would any "why" be, with this case. The Manson stuff you had some fishy "why".
The late 70's and early 80's, you had a lot of rock/pop stars dropping like flies. The government, with the guys running it back then, could be pretty savage. The "why", if they'd be the ones taking out these rock stars. So who knows.. maybe there's some "why" going on with the Wonderland murders.
But yeah.. was searching reddit conspiracy for Wonderland and was like, hey.. MKULTRA, where they used Alice in Wonderland for programming. Kept going pages back and noticed somebody posting:
"The Pedophocracy by David McGowan
116 points 23 comments submitted 6 years ago by LearningIsListening to r/conspiracy
David McGowan, author of Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon, also published The Pedophocracy. This lesser known text covers international and domestic pedophilia and discusses several key figures involved."
I'm there.. what? Never heard of this book. I look it up. You don't find it using google. I used duck duck go and found it.
The Pedophocracy by David McGowan.pdf
But it's only 55 pages. And this pdf I was like, wtf with this red background instead of white. I download it, run it through pdf to text. I'll paste it in the comments below. At least it's not this annoying red background, that's hard on the eyes. Who does that.
Then I start checking out that thread,
https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cil0y8/the_pedophocracy_by_david_mcgowan/
It starts off with a link and on this whale.to that I had bookmarked in the past. Lots of conspiracy pages there.
http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html
At least it doesn't have the red background.
David McGowan though.. that Weird scenes was a good book. Here's a bookmark of it. 328 pages.
https://archive.org/details/weirdscenesinsid0000mcgo
And now this one about pedophilia. He writes this stuff and, oh.. all of a sudden, "Dec 29, 2015 — ... passed away following a courageous six month battle against lung cancer."
Like when did he write these books. Weird scenes was 2010. Now this pedophocracy.. Can't find it cause google doesn't like talking about this stuff.
Oh, you got a page about it,
https://www.wikispooks.com/wiki/The_Pedophocracy
Here's the start:
"The Pedophocracy is term coined by David McGowan. It is the title of his book on the subject of pedophilia as an Elite habit and one of the main tools of control of the visible ruling elites, by those not so visible.[1][2] Of all human vices and perversions, pedophilia is one of the most shameful and outrageous in the public mind, giving it great potential as a source of control. VIPaedophile is another research term on Wikispooks into the topic.
This is a deeply disturbing subject. In similar fashion to the proposition that deep state actors commit false flag terror attacks against their own populations to further their agendas, people are reluctant to consider the thought that child sexual abuse could be systematically cultivated and used as a calculated and deliberate means of Machiavellian control. Many people simply do not want to be told such things. Outrage is thus indulged for a while before relapse into the consensus trance of everyday routine, where fear of strangers and the dark are relegated to the subconscious and the odd bad dream.
To be enlisted to the 'Pedophocracy Novitiate' so-to-speak is a temptation difficult for the psychopathic personality type that aspires to power to decline. To become a 1st degree member is to sell one's soul - and there are probably thirty-odd higher degrees each capable of 'making an offer that cannot be refused' by their 'juniors'. Standard military discipline simply cannot hold a candle to it; Special Forces/SIS-type skills and disciplines clearly make extensive use of the victims of it."
I don't think they'd like anybody digging up this stuff. Google doesn't like going there.. asked gemini AI and it uses google so you gotta use something else. I try grok.. even that, showing what's going on as it's inquiring.. it's like it's using google and can't really get anything going about info. At the end, it just says:
"The term "pedophocracy" was coined by David McGowan in his book of the same name, a compilation of investigative articles on child abuse networks and institutional cover-ups. It was first published online in 2001 as a free PDF on sites like mindcontrolforums.com, before being republished in print editions around 2014 after his death. This date is confirmed in linguistic references and bibliographies, such as Wiktionary and academic citations."
When searching, I thought it might of come out in 2011 but for some reason seems like 2001, so that's before Weird scenes. How did he even find out the info he did, with the Weird scenes book. But yeah.. in the comments gonna paste this whole The Pedophocracy book. Gonna start reading that this weekend.
[part 8]
The stories told by these children, it should be noted, were not fed to them by some diabolical team of therapists and headline-seeking journalists. Many of them were offered spontaneously to hundreds of parents and scores of childcare specialists. And the victims of the McMartin Preschool, all adults now, still tell the same stories today.
While anyone suggesting that the allegations in the McMartin case were true - and that a massive cover-up concealed the true nature and scope of the case - is likely to be labeled a 'conspiracy theorist,' the most preposterous conspiracy theory surrounding McMartin has always been the notion that some cabal of overzealous therapists was able to implant 'false memories' of heinous abuse in the minds of nearly 500 individuals, and have them persist to this day.
Despite the vast number of eyewitnesses - most of them bearing physical evidence of abuse - and despite the fact that the judge who presided over more than a year of pre-trial testimony ruled that the state had more than enough evidence to proceed to trial, District Attorney Ira Reiner inexplicably dropped all charges against five of the seven defendants in the case on January 17 of
At least three dozen other suspects who had been independently identified by numerous witnesses were never indicted at all. One of these was a man named Robert Winkler, arrested in neighboring Torrance, California for running a baby-sitting service out of the Coco Palms Motel that authorities described as a front for a sexual abuse ring. Children in the McMartin case recognized Winkler in news footage as the man they had known as the 'Wolfman.'
The kids described Winkler as being a frequent visitor to the school, delivering drugs for use in abusive rituals, which were sometimes conducted in churches, a cemetery, or a crematorium. The Wolfman, conveniently enough, turned up dead on the eve of his trial, allegedly of a drug overdose.
Winkler wasn't the only one to miss his day in court in conjunction with the McMartin case. Judy Johnson, the first McMartin parent to lodge a complaint, turned up dead before her scheduled testimony as well. When her body was found sprawled naked on the floor of her home, her death was said to be due to complications from her chronic alcoholism. She was also derided by defense attorneys and their media allies as a mentally unfit crank.
In truth, Johnson was not known to have any mental problems - or a drinking problem - prior to learning of the unthinkable abuse her child had suffered. Considered a key prosecution witness, Johnson received frequent threats prior to her death and was followed when she ventured out in public. Many of the other McMartin parents were openly skeptical of Johnson's stated cause of death.
A former Hermosa Beach police officer named Paul Bynum, who had been hired by the parents of victims as a private investigator, turned up dead on the eve of his scheduled testimony as well. His death by gunshot was ruled a suicide, though those close to Bynum dispute that finding to this day.
Among other things, Bynum may have testified about his examination of the tunnel excavation project conducted at the school site. This was, of course, the object of much derision by the media. The fact that the children repeatedly told stories of tunnels under the property by which they could be secretly transported to and from the school, and in which they were subjected to unspeakable abuse in a secret room, was frequently cited as 'proof' that the children's stories were fabrications.
It was universally accepted that the tunnels did not actually exist, that being the consensus view of the media and law enforcement authorities. But while it is true that the investigation commissioned by the District Attorney's office found no evidence of tunnels, one of the dirty little secrets of the McMartin case is that the tunnels did, in fact, exist.
Many of the parents were not satisfied with the ridiculously superficial examination by the DA's office, and commissioned another investigation of the site when the property was sold in April of 1990. To lead the project, they hired E. Gary Stickel, Ph.D., a highly regarded archeologist recommended to them by the Chair of the Interdisciplinary Program of the Archeology Department at UCLA. Stickel had served as a consultant to Lucasfilms on the Indiana Jones movies.
Also brought on board were several other technical specialists. As Stickel wrote in his report on the excavation: "By engaging a highly recommended professional archeological team, [the parents] hoped to bring scientific authority to whatever might be found or a definitive resolution for whatever was not to be found." And what the team found was precisely what the children had been telling them they would find for the previous seven years:
"The project unearthed not one but two tunnel complexes as well as previously unrecognized structural features which defied logical explanation. Both tunnel complexes conformed to locations and functional descriptions established by children's reports. One had been described as providing undetected access to an adjacent building on the east. The other provided outside access under the west wall of the building and contained within it an enlarged, cavernous artifact corresponding to children's descriptions of a 'secret room.'
"Both the contour signature of the walls and the nature of recovered artifacts indicated that the tunnels had been dug by hand under the concrete slab floor after the construction of the building ... Not only did the discovered features fulfill the research prequalifications as tunnels designed for human traffic, there was also no alternative or natural explanation for the presence of such features ...
"If the stories of the children were bogus fantasies, there is no excuse for the tunnels discovered under the school. If there really were tunnels, there is no excuse for the glib dismissal of any and all of the complaints of the children and their parents."
This investigation was completed before the McMartin trials had concluded, yet this devastating evidence was never presented in court by the prosecution. The existence of this report, complete with photos and maps of the tunnel complexes, was known to the local and national press, but it was never reported. To this day, it is denied that any tunnels ever existed under the McMartin Preschool.
The denial of the tunnels is necessary to maintain the illusion that the children were not credible witnesses, that illusion being essential to the cover-up. For if the children were credible, the implications run far deeper than the tunnels under the school. There is, for example, the stories told by the children of being
pimped out as child prostitutes in private homes and businesses all over the community.
They also spoke frequently of being photographed and videotaped while being abused. District Attorney Robert Philibosian publicly declared the McMartin Preschool to be an elaborate front for a massive child pornography operation. Twenty-three parents filed a civil lawsuit making the very same claim, one that appears to be strongly supported by the facts of the case.
Other stories told repeatedly by the children are even more disturbing. They told of being forced to witness and participate in the ritual torture, killing and mutilation of animals and, on occasion, of human babies and children as well. They spoke of being forced to drink the blood and eat the flesh of the slaughtered corpses, of witnessing the beheading of infants, and of being forced to stab infants themselves.
They told as well of being sealed in coffins with the mutilated corpses. And they spoke of being subjected to every sort of depraved sexual activity imaginable, including necrophilia, copraphilia and bestiality. The abuse was of such stunning brutality that it is almost beyond human comprehension that anyone could inflict such physical and psychological torture on children.
And yet these stories were soon being told by thousands of other kids across the country as preschool abuse cases spread like wildfire. Young children from all walks of life, and from all parts of the country, all telling remarkably similar stories of horrific ritual abuse - how was this possible? If they were all victims of 'false memories,' how vast a conspiracy would be required for therapists all across the country to implant the very same memories in all of these children?
Experts have noted that the victimized children show a level of knowledge that defies rational explanation if the kids have not experienced what they claim to have experienced. For instance, these child victims can accurately describe the look, smell, texture and colors of human viscera. This is an ability, it has been argued, that very few adults possess, other than those who have been trained as surgeons or coroners.
These children also display a remarkable level of knowledge of a wide variety of human sexual practices, including many bizarre acts that, again, most adults do not have knowledge or awareness of. If these children did not experience these things firsthand, then how did they gain such knowledge?
In February of 1985, Officer Sandi Gallant of the San Francisco Police Department submitted a report to her superiors noting the similarities in numerous ritual abuse cases. She had gathered evidence from fellow officers and police departments across the country and summarized the evidence referenced in the police reports submitted to her. An excerpt from her report reads as follows:
"The information contained herein is distasteful and bizarre, to such a degree that one would choose to discredit it. However, research that I have done in this area has revealed that numerous cases of this type are surfacing around the country and in Canada. The similarities in the stories of each child victim used in these crimes tend to give credibility to the information revealed by others. Additionally, the psychiatrists and therapists who have been treating the victims state that the consistency of the stories and the explicit details revealed cause them to believe that these children are telling the truth. It is also the belief of each law enforcement officer who submitted information for this report that the victims are being truthful and that, in fact, children would be unable to make such stories up.
"During my research, similarities began surfacing which indicate the strong probability that there exists a network of people in this country involved in the sexual abuse and possible homicides of young children. These cases appear to differ from isolated cases of abuse towards children in that the crimes mentioned here have been committed with one common goal in mind - that of mutilating and murdering children for ritualistic or sacrificial purposes. Many of the cases reported also reveal the possibility of child pornography beyond the normal type of 'kiddie porn' in that these children are photographed during rituals with some members in robes or other garb and candles, snakes, swords, altars and other types of ritualistic material being used."
Gallant had requested that the report be sent on to the chief of police for him to review and forward to the FBI. Following his review, however, the chief declined to submit the report. Gallant also tried to get the U.S. Department of Justice to review the paperwork, but she was - not surprisingly - rebuffed there as well.
As for the McMartin case, there has never been any question that the children there were horrifically abused. Though rarely noted in press reports, the jurors were clearly of the opinion that that was, in fact, the case. The hung juries and acquittals were the result of the jury members' inability to identify the perpetrators of that abuse, which they attributed to the inept presentation of the prosecution's case.
Another notable fact about the McMartin trials is that the defense was allowed to subject the child witnesses to the longest pretrial hearing in the nation's history. Facing a battery of as many as seven rabid defense attorneys, the already severely traumatized children were verbally assaulted for weeks on end in a deliberate attempt to break them. The state made little effort to protect these young victims.
Also rarely noted in the reporting on the trials is that the matriarch of the family
believed that her children had been molested at the school. McMartin, by the way, had achieved semi-celebrity status in the childcare field. In the mid-1960s, she had traveled to New Zealand, Australia, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and England to visit preschools as a consultant.
In the final analysis, the logical conclusion to be drawn from the McMartin case is that 460 kids did not conspire to all lie about the abuse they suffered. They also did not likely lie about their involvement in child prostitution and child pornography. They certainly did not lie about the tunnels under the school.
They also did not lie about their forced involvement in satanic rituals, in which adults sheathed in black ceremonial robes uttered chants. In fact, at least one such robe was seized from the home of a defendant. And, perhaps most tragically, there is good reason to believe that they did not lie about the blood sacrifices either.
[continued in part 9]