Thanks Guy, you're not one hosing this thread. I respect your view that return to active moderation brings great censorship risks. I'm still counting on you as one who's good at seeing how to bring people to consensus on how to proceed in life, especially in a forum where by default people are skeptical of everything, especially religion. If my statement about the suspiciousness of voting are borne out, then the fact that we vote differently shouldn't actually reflect that we have a core problem but only an opportunity to find best paths for the community together along with everyone else of many ideas. Looking forward to the continuing convo.