Do you want a make a pool? Or vote in some way for the most important news of the week?
Following Axeotl_Peotl's example, we can go for the most upvoted comment in here as the major topic that should be discussed this week. Most upvotes, or longest discussion WINS.
We can do that every week, so we can try to make this into a community. Otherwise, everyone is just sharing their views - old, new, wrong, right, etc... There is no community work being done in reality.
I know we agree on the majority of the conspiracies, but on some we disagree...
If we make a DISCUSSION posts about a certain topic and we actually manage to finalize it, then we can just copy the link to any new user that has any questions about this topic. I see this as a win for everyone of us. Otherwise, we just share known materials to veterans, who can help with a lot of information.
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How can we activate the veterans in conspiracy research to be more active and share their information with newcomers?
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How can we have a useful debate that actually reaches a useful and truthful conclusion?
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How can we make this community more proactive than it already is?
We should unite our efforts to make a difference, otherwise it's every man for himself... And how has that worked in the past?
It's clear that the enemy wants to divide us, so it might be a good idea to unite in the ideas that we agree on. It seems like a good idea to at least try. I can definitely say that it worked when Axeotl_Peotl was making the pools in the past about the most important conspiracy of the week.
Rules:
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Attack the argument, not the person.
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Add more information to the topic, if you can.
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Expose shills, who have no rational reason to go against any topic.
If you see a positive use for this, please share any topics that you think are relevant. A Charlie Kirk discussion, or a united thread would be very useful, but of course any suggestions would be appreciated, just say what comes to your mind as an important conspiracy topic.
We had already great discussions in here on the Lahaina fires and other topics, where users were compiling big posts that clearly showed the conclusion of a combined research (sorry, if I miss your specific example, I just forget things).
That would be an extremely useful database. If we can compile all the information in one post, someone can share it, someone can make a documentary about it, someone can research for more details...
We all have different qualities that can be useful to expose the truth to others. It is better to share them then just use them on our own. What has been achieved so far by a single individual? But if we combine our resources, we might have a real chance to wake a lot of people with extensive research and firm message that would help them conclude that the mass media is lying.
I'm sorry that I have to be the person to restart this topic, but I haven't seen anything similar in some time in here. (I don't review this forum daily, so if you've done that and I've missed it - I'm sorry). But if we decide on a day that is specifically for these discussions, we might have a real breakthrough using the brains of this community.
If you think that's a good idea - comment your best conspiracy topic.
If you think that I shouldn't start this - make a DISCUSSION post about your best conspiracy topic.
Either way, I hope you can share knowledge between yourselves in a united manner. That would certainly show the greatest result, imo.
Hey, cheers, thanks man - but really all I did was a quick search for the old forum’s posts (which axo actually collated, which you can see at the bottom of that reddit page) and a quick scroll through Clem’s old posts
I agree with many of the issues you’ve listed - the people still posting here often seem to live in their own worlds and make very little effort to connect their posts to the “interests of the community” so-to-speak…
If I could only make one suggestion, it might be to try and reinvigorate this place (in terms of members/contributors) would be to “advertise” well made posts in the other, few forums left on this site (namely the donald, kotaku in action, and the qtard board).
Also, tangentially, I’ve noticed that this place has far more posters than commenters. A few guys here just kinda spew the same shit over and over and over while no one bothers to engage with it (because why would you?) - like that guy who just posts screenshots and copy/pasted text from his retarded “conversations” with ai, seem to make up a quarter of the forum at any given time - which is to say, some new blood could probably help the place
That's more than most people. And literally everyone, who answered the post, so what you did is huge! If someone does something little, but it's the best thing that you can do at the time - then you've done a great service!
If you need help with this, then I offer mine. I don't think I've joined those, but if there's anything you need there, I can offer my limited skills.
True.
I got the reply from some user that never replied to his posts that he never checks the comments... That's literally reducing to 0 the chance to interract with the community, but somehow he read my comment, so there is still hope for people in here. Probably they got discouraged from the many shills that comment and never post in here...
If you have something in mind, I have free time, I'm able to edit videos to make compilations on many topics, I have a big database on many topics also... I can try to help you, if you have any idea how to reinvigorate this place, or any other. I ask nothing in return.
Please help me, and help the people in conspiracy forums to have a direction! Even if we can't do this, we would've at least tried...
Just please don't leave this just as a comment... Let's do something... Whatever it is. Let's make an effort and see how it pays out.
You’re right
I’ll try to think of something worth making an effort/discussion post around
Tangentially, it feels to me like part of the reason for this place stagnating has to do with the feeling that everything these days feels like a conspiracy, so unlike, say, 10 years ago on reddit (99% normie shit with that remaining 1% being funneled into r/conspiracy), it feels like discussion has spread (and thus diluted) all over the place, yknow? Reddit and the other normie sites are all lefty “conspiracy” shit these days (aka “fuck right wingers!”) while sites like this become more of an inverted mirror to that, rather than the older feeling of people of various “biases” coming together over the shared recognition of how fake and gay everything is - hopefully that made some sense lol it’s a bit early for deep thoughts for me hah
I’ve been making most of my recent posts on c/Manna, usually I see them has having “cross-appeal” on the different forums, but I also like to make very open ended posts, which I see as kind of “Rorschach tests”, in that different people tend to see different things in them, and I find people sometimes get annoyed by that. Idk
That's actually very deep thinking into the mind of different forums' users, I really appreciate that.
If you could desire a specific outcome with your posts, or your ultimate post, what would that be? Disregard all, who read it, just the specific post that you think would have the most truth in it to turn the tables... If that is even possible...
Don't think of what people would like to see... Think of what is the truth, and how can we create this ultimate project as well as we possibly can. The correct people would then be attracted by it. And if you think about it, that's our target audience.
Just consider someone with a lot of saved videos/files/books on conspiracies, someone with skills in editing videos (not perfectly, but I can learn new skills easily in less than a day)... If you could command this person to help you to do the ultimate work that could possibly perfectly help a newcomer into conspiracies, or focus a veteran into the correct direction, what would that be?
No need to rush a reply, just think of what you want to see finalized... I have some things in mind, but my last project required a lot of time, and I did it alone, so it would be faster if we both work on it... (don't want to pressure you, but I have searched for someone to help me slightly, while I can do all the heavy lifting... You have great ideas and insight... I would like to use them to create some kind of a final documentary, or at least a starting one, so we can see what we can do united...)
Think about it... I'm not the best in what I do, but certainly I can save you some time in this ultimate project. Probably you can check your posts in c/Manna and decide what post is the best, if you're happy with those posts. If not, I would be doing that alone, as usual, but it will require more time...
You have great insight! I can do the hard, boring work. Can we make something out of this? I can give you examples of hard-hitting documentaries that are worth to watch by any researcher... If you don't have any ideas, I can suggest some... But I need a strong brain, like yours, to make a moderate project into a hard-hitting one...
If you could spare the time, I would greatly appreciate that!