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Trump jokes he is hell-bound. He's not wrong. (www.youtube.com)
posted 53 days ago by TurnToGodNow 53 days ago by TurnToGodNow +9 / -3
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– DieHeretic 0 points 52 days ago +1 / -1

No one is guaranteed Heaven. No one. Donald Trump presumes nothing of his Creator, same as should all of us sinners.

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– TurnToGodNow [S] 0 points 51 days ago +1 / -1

That's a misrepresentation of what he said. He wasn't humbly saying "gee I don't know for sure but I am doing my best", what he said is a denial of the gospel and Christ's work on the cross.

So it's not even a Catholic work's based salvation (which is itself wrong) but even more than that. He's denying the gospel and claiming he's so far gone in sin he can't get into heaven. Whatever you want to call that, it is not saving faith.

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– DieHeretic 0 points 51 days ago +1 / -1

Faith without good works is meaningless. You prods think you can be a shit human your entire life and just because Jesus died for your sins it's all good as long as you believe.

You are all so wrong it's sad.

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– TurnToGodNow [S] 1 point 51 days ago +1 / -0

prods think you can be a shit human

Also incorrect. Try to find a true Bible believing protestant pastor who a) Doesn't do good works b) Tells you to skip doing good works.

You're just confusing cause and effect. Good works for the Lord are a symptom of salvation, not the root cause of it. And that distinction is very important.

If you are unsaved but are trying to convince yourself "good works will do it" you're engaged in a futile effort and should be corrected. The root is to repent and be born again, it's an internal yielding to the Holy Spirit, not "I willed myself to do so many good works in life, I'm good now".

Jesus emphasized to Nicodemus "you must be born again" to enter the Kingdom of heaven. You can look at the book of Acts to see people being saved and being transformed. The root of salvation is not "try really hard to be good, use your willpower and if your willpower is better than others you win". Works are the fruit, not the root.

Though we could go further, because the root of all that is true and saving faith. You can't accept the transformation without faith in the one who provides it.

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– DieHeretic 1 point 50 days ago +1 / -0

"Faith without good works is meaningless."

You totally ignored that. You must have both. Faith alone is not sufficient, so many faithful don't believe that and it will be their downfall.

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