"Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism. And when today the Jew still runs into our factories and says: How can you be a socialist antisemite? Are not you ashamed? - there comes a time in which we will ask: How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist! There comes a time when it will be obvious that socialism can only be carried out accompanied by nationalism and antisemitism." - Hitler
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That isn't what we're discussing and you know it. Stop obfuscating. Stop being manipulative and deceitful. Those are the ways of Satan and his children.
The topic is whether all groups of people, of any delineation, are equal in behavior and sin. Your position is simply false, and obviously false.
Yes it is. It's what you're tacitly suggesting, by arguing that because all people are sinners, that therefore all sin is equal and all people are sinning equally. If you argument was true, then God is acting arbitrarily by who He destroyed, who He condemns and saves, and who He commanded to be destroyed. God does not act arbitrarily, thus your position is wrong.
Yes, you did. You're hiding behind the "we're all sinners" argument to completely erase all differentiation of peoples, because you're tacitly defending jewish behavior, which is obviously worse. Go reread your initial comment and disagreement with u/CrazyRussian. Your position necessarily requires you to believe in egalitarianism, equality, and tabula rasa, all of which are explicitly and implicitly disproven in the Bible and creation.
No they don't. If all rulers were equal in their mistreatment and tyranny over their citizenry, then we wouldn't have lulls in this bad treatment, from nation to nation, ruler to ruler, or generation to generation, and there would be no distinguishing difference in any other metric. If different rulers treated their people equally and immutable horribly, then God wouldn't have commanded us to submit to our governmental leaders in the Bible, and God would never would have even suggested a differentiation of rulers (i.e. if they were good or bad), if they were all equally bad.
And? Just because those governments and peoples treated Christians and their own people badly, does not mean all governments and rulers are equally as bad as them. Even a child's understanding of history proves how wrong your assertion is. You're worshipping at the feet of egalitarianism so much, defending jews so much, that you're trying to equate all governments and all rulers as equal. You've completely lost the plot.
I give you warning to repent, because you are in obvious and blasphemous error. You are accusing God of sin, denying the reality of creation, denying scripture, denying truth, worshipping at the feet of false idols, and denying the divinity of God. You are in open heresy. I tell you again, repent of your false ways and worship God, all of God, in alignment with God.
That's your strawman argument. Show me where I said this.
You're going off on a high horse tangent, mad that I'm pointing out similar levels of wickedness between dominant humans throughout history. Apparently you have some sort of reverse idol in the Jews, they must be this villain above all others.
I've proven that is a lie and you are freaking out over it.
You're fucking nuts. I've about had it talking with you and your delusions. Either calm down and seek clarity, or rage by yourself.
It's inherent to your argument. Are you this unaware of what you're arguing?
You're literally trying to argue that all peoples are equal, because all peoples are equally tyrannical when in positions of power. You did this, to explicitly defend jews, as no more evil than any other demographic. You're being disingenuous, manipulative, hypocritical, denying reality, and (if you're actually Christian) blasphemous toward God, worshipping at the feet of false idols (like egalitarianism, tabula rasa, and race blindness), denying creation, denying truth, accusing God of sin, and denying God (picking and choosing what you want to be true).
You're making the argument that all rulers, by all peoples, across all cultures, races, and times, are all the same. That is objectively false and easily provably false. Your assertion isn't just idiotic, it's the king of the kingdom of idiots, as not even normie and mainstream historians, who still support egalitarianism, would argue what you're arguing.
We know, for a fact, that not all rulers are identical in their behavior, because not all people are identical in their behavior. Thus, not all rulers are the same, or do the same things. We know, for a fact, that not all peoples are the same, that their behaviors are different, their cultures are different, their IQs are different, their governances are different, their welfare use is different, their voting habits are different, their spending habits are different, their thought patterns and ideas are different, and their behaviors are different, resulting in wildly different governances and leaders.
You're arguing, that because all groups of people have had despotic leaders, at some point or another, that therefore all peoples and leaders are the same, and that the frequency of this occurrence is equal. None of your assertions are true, and it's easily observable. You're doing the exact opposite logical fallacy of NAxALT (not all X are like that), but falling off the opposite side of the horse, by taking specific instances to paint the entire picture in a false light, ignoring the actual averages and per capita behaviors, because it doesn't adhere to your obvious defense of jews (which is why you came into this discussion in the first place).
"Anytime anyone refutes my bullshit at length means they're 'freaking out'. Please disregard all books ever written, because anything written at length, if it disagrees with me, is 'wrong' and 'bad', because I have no other argument." - you
I laid out quite well how you're accusing God of sin. Repent, or be cast into the fire. It would've been better for you to have never believed in Christ to begin with, if you so thoroughly reject the father and the son, and the truth that is in them and from them. If God dileneates one ruler from another, one people from another, one person from another, if God judges different individuals and collectives differently, when you're arguing that all peoples are equal, then you are, ipso facto, accusing God of sin.
According to your own argument, which is entirely reliant on egalitarianism, race blindness, and tabula rasa, you are accusing God of sin by arbitrarily destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, arbitrarily destroying the earth with the flood but saving Noah, arbitrarily telling the Israelites to genocide the Canaanites, arbitrarily saving certain people but condemning others.
Egalitarianism, race blindness, and tabula rasa are lies, from the mouth of Satan and his children. Either you are one of Satan's children, or you were led astray by false teachers, and have become a false teacher yourself. If you are genuine, may the Holy Spirit correct and rebuke you of your false ways, so you may repent and live in accordance with God, able to accept the whole of God, not merely what you personally approve of. If you're disingenuous, may the Holy Spirit also work in you, so that even someone as contemptible as you may be saved.
You're just making shit up and turned your error into a wall of text. Yeah that's nuts. Repent of your stubbornness and self deception.
It's inherent to your position, and you apparently don't even know what you were arguing. Let's clarify, shall we?
Are all races and ethnicities equal?
Do all races and ethnicities act identically?
Do jews act differently than other peoples?
Do jews believe differently than other peoples?
Are all rulers identical?
Answer these questions truthfully, and you'll realize that what you said at the start of this thread is false. Here is what you said:
You've been all over this post defending jews. Your agenda is obvious, by the way. You have no retort to my arguments, so you just claim "wall of text" because what I said is longer than a bumper sticker slogan or TikTok video.
I can't repent for something I haven't done wrong. You, on the other hand, are espousing for a lie, obfuscating the truth, and manipulating people in an obvious attempt to defend jews. Be honest and forthright, as we're commanded to be by God and Jesus.