You may be referring to an exchange years ago. CIAMM has on occasion said that certain kinds of talk have gotten people killed, suggesting that he's seen death and wants to warn people indirectly. Looking at Andy's past week of rhetoric at Christianity I don't see much different, except that the hypothetical warnings are spiritual instead of physical.
CIAMM is a piece of s*** and so are you. Absolute liars, fellowshipping with demons and false religion. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find you have a residence in Babylon. Would you like to kill me now?
As soon as you connect a circuit showing there's a demon here by some simple standard, logical or spiritual, I'll fight the demon. Of course I can also fight proactively. There are certain exorcisms I will do at the drop of a hat:
Father, Lord, Yahweh, we come to you with the discernment that there must be something demonic in our conversation because it's gone on so long without resolution. Andy, u/SovereignSon, and I come to you to ask that the demonic influence cease, and we all agree on this point even though we have different ways of saying it. So by the authority you've given me as a follower of Christ, I call on you to remove from us every spirit that opposes you, every attitude that is antichrist. Your ministering angels take charge as you order, command, and ordain, and they have authority to remove demons from our midst and are doing so right now. Just as we have seen in the outer world, in the smaller areas like the trillions of dollars, when the enemy is named he flees and he ceases his operations; so also in the much weightier matters of the spirit, our naming the enemy causes him to flee seven ways from Sunday. And so, Father God, I use that authority to exorcise these demons now, in Jesus's name, amen.
And now, you evil spirits of antichrist, of enmity, of rebellion, of witchcraft, of falsehood, of lying, of cheating, of religiosity, of heresy, of sect, of divisiveness, of faction, of casuistry, of all Babylonian and all satanic systems, you are dispelled from us, your assignments are broken, your power is spent, your words are impotent, and your network is destroyed. Depart from me, from Andy, from Son, and from the followers of Jesus in these virtual or real spaces, now, and do not return. You have no power, you have no authority, and you are leaving now, by the power of Jesus's name.
You disguise yours behind "high speak" because you are a serpent. I am straightforward with mine because I am a son of God.
As soon as you connect a circuit showing there's a demon here by some simple standard, logical or spiritual, I'll fight the demon. Of course I can also fight proactively. There are certain exorcisms I will do at the drop of a hat:
Maybe you have been blinded by the ruler of this world?
Your ministering angels take charge as you order, command, and ordain, and they have authority to remove demons from our midst and are doing so right now.
Start with CIAMM.
You have no power, you have no authority, and you are leaving now, by the power of Jesus's name.
I would suggest trusting in God as our first plan of action. That He has given us His word in our own language. I can't think of a reason why He would not. You are full of reasons why He would not. How does this even make sense to you? Do you think He is trying to fool us?
Thank you for accepting and adding to my exorcism. I trust then that we can dispense with exaggerated characterizations.
That He has given us His word in our own language. I can't think of a reason why He would not. You are full of reasons why He would not.
I've never said He wouldn't or didn't give us His Word in our own language. I've accepted the KJV 1769 as having a special "inspiration" unlike any other version. I do occasionally think about all my brothers and sisters for thousands of years who never knew Early Modern English, as to whether God gave them His Word in their own language, but since you generally have discounted them it shouldn't be a concern. Besides, sooner or later English speakers will be a majority of all believers who have ever lived, if this keeps up, won't they?
but since you generally have discounted them it shouldn't be a concern.
This is where your Roman "church" comes in, kind of hard to translate something that's either chained to the altar or under the penalty of death for even being read. They didn't call it the dark ages for nothing.
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen one of them legitimately apologize for anything, ever. It’s like they think doing so would acknowledge their fallibility and harm their ability to act as the local “priests”
But also you gotta chill on SS dude you treat him like the devil when he’s clearly just a friendly hippie-ish Christian
Well, dude, then I apologize for my part in our failed communications. Failed comms are a two-way street of course. I've also apologized when you've disliked mod choices and we've amended them.
But the real issue remains: can you unequivocally condemn the escalation of disagreement into confrontation into threats of violence? Because I always find you equivocating when it comes to that. And for the Love of God, please don’t make some insane argument about everyone deserving to be murdered being theologically sound, thus justifying (even partially) specific, directed, personal threats. Nothing is more repulsive.
And even if you choose to do so, at the same time you choose to smear together your responsibilities with others’ into the golem you label “the mod board”. You’re not even the person at issue here, except insofar as you act as a fig leaf for the issue in your long posts refusing to “wheel war” (aka acknowledge imperfection in “the mod board’s” actions aka the original and 4 year longstanding request)
Yes, if it's a threat of violence, it's condemned.
If it's an allusion to violence, that's not often a threat and it's also much more subjective to judge. There was a recent exchange in the hypothetical voice that we debated but eventually agreed was removable. We're not here to remove all allusions to violence that people might take personally, or people might start saying they feel threatened when we speak of the deservingness of this or that Mideastern people-group.
If it's possibly readable as theology, that often gets a pass too because it's more charitable to read it as theological than as actually intentionally violent.
We do acknowledge imperfection in our actions. What I recall being asked 4 years ago was specific adjustments, and I went over the decisions with you and we made adjustments.
A covenant to work together is not a golem, it's a joint agreement to work as a body. All joint agreements in the world work like that.
So those seem to me to be fair definitions, without equivocation. If you don't think so, please feel free to drill down more specifically.
can you unequivocally condemn the escalation of disagreement into confrontation into threats of violence?
That's never happened. Not once. Learn how to read instead of clutching your pearls, and stop being an insufferable faggot. Or are you trying to beat Bill Mitchell at his own game?!?
It's not adamant if it's contradictory and he doesn't realize it's contradictory. "Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity."
You may be referring to an exchange years ago. CIAMM has on occasion said that certain kinds of talk have gotten people killed, suggesting that he's seen death and wants to warn people indirectly. Looking at Andy's past week of rhetoric at Christianity I don't see much different, except that the hypothetical warnings are spiritual instead of physical.
CIAMM is a piece of s*** and so are you. Absolute liars, fellowshipping with demons and false religion. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to find you have a residence in Babylon. Would you like to kill me now?
See what I mean about your rhetoric Andy?
As soon as you connect a circuit showing there's a demon here by some simple standard, logical or spiritual, I'll fight the demon. Of course I can also fight proactively. There are certain exorcisms I will do at the drop of a hat:
Father, Lord, Yahweh, we come to you with the discernment that there must be something demonic in our conversation because it's gone on so long without resolution. Andy, u/SovereignSon, and I come to you to ask that the demonic influence cease, and we all agree on this point even though we have different ways of saying it. So by the authority you've given me as a follower of Christ, I call on you to remove from us every spirit that opposes you, every attitude that is antichrist. Your ministering angels take charge as you order, command, and ordain, and they have authority to remove demons from our midst and are doing so right now. Just as we have seen in the outer world, in the smaller areas like the trillions of dollars, when the enemy is named he flees and he ceases his operations; so also in the much weightier matters of the spirit, our naming the enemy causes him to flee seven ways from Sunday. And so, Father God, I use that authority to exorcise these demons now, in Jesus's name, amen.
And now, you evil spirits of antichrist, of enmity, of rebellion, of witchcraft, of falsehood, of lying, of cheating, of religiosity, of heresy, of sect, of divisiveness, of faction, of casuistry, of all Babylonian and all satanic systems, you are dispelled from us, your assignments are broken, your power is spent, your words are impotent, and your network is destroyed. Depart from me, from Andy, from Son, and from the followers of Jesus in these virtual or real spaces, now, and do not return. You have no power, you have no authority, and you are leaving now, by the power of Jesus's name.
See what I mean about your rhetoric Andy?
You disguise yours behind "high speak" because you are a serpent. I am straightforward with mine because I am a son of God.
As soon as you connect a circuit showing there's a demon here by some simple standard, logical or spiritual, I'll fight the demon. Of course I can also fight proactively. There are certain exorcisms I will do at the drop of a hat:
Maybe you have been blinded by the ruler of this world?
Your ministering angels take charge as you order, command, and ordain, and they have authority to remove demons from our midst and are doing so right now.
Start with CIAMM.
You have no power, you have no authority, and you are leaving now, by the power of Jesus's name.
I would suggest trusting in God as our first plan of action. That He has given us His word in our own language. I can't think of a reason why He would not. You are full of reasons why He would not. How does this even make sense to you? Do you think He is trying to fool us?
Thank you for accepting and adding to my exorcism. I trust then that we can dispense with exaggerated characterizations.
I've never said He wouldn't or didn't give us His Word in our own language. I've accepted the KJV 1769 as having a special "inspiration" unlike any other version. I do occasionally think about all my brothers and sisters for thousands of years who never knew Early Modern English, as to whether God gave them His Word in their own language, but since you generally have discounted them it shouldn't be a concern. Besides, sooner or later English speakers will be a majority of all believers who have ever lived, if this keeps up, won't they?
but since you generally have discounted them it shouldn't be a concern.
This is where your Roman "church" comes in, kind of hard to translate something that's either chained to the altar or under the penalty of death for even being read. They didn't call it the dark ages for nothing.
I don’t know if I’ve ever seen one of them legitimately apologize for anything, ever. It’s like they think doing so would acknowledge their fallibility and harm their ability to act as the local “priests”
But also you gotta chill on SS dude you treat him like the devil when he’s clearly just a friendly hippie-ish Christian
Well, dude, then I apologize for my part in our failed communications. Failed comms are a two-way street of course. I've also apologized when you've disliked mod choices and we've amended them.
Thank you.
And likewise.
But the real issue remains: can you unequivocally condemn the escalation of disagreement into confrontation into threats of violence? Because I always find you equivocating when it comes to that. And for the Love of God, please don’t make some insane argument about everyone deserving to be murdered being theologically sound, thus justifying (even partially) specific, directed, personal threats. Nothing is more repulsive.
And even if you choose to do so, at the same time you choose to smear together your responsibilities with others’ into the golem you label “the mod board”. You’re not even the person at issue here, except insofar as you act as a fig leaf for the issue in your long posts refusing to “wheel war” (aka acknowledge imperfection in “the mod board’s” actions aka the original and 4 year longstanding request)
Yes, if it's a threat of violence, it's condemned.
If it's an allusion to violence, that's not often a threat and it's also much more subjective to judge. There was a recent exchange in the hypothetical voice that we debated but eventually agreed was removable. We're not here to remove all allusions to violence that people might take personally, or people might start saying they feel threatened when we speak of the deservingness of this or that Mideastern people-group.
If it's possibly readable as theology, that often gets a pass too because it's more charitable to read it as theological than as actually intentionally violent.
We do acknowledge imperfection in our actions. What I recall being asked 4 years ago was specific adjustments, and I went over the decisions with you and we made adjustments.
A covenant to work together is not a golem, it's a joint agreement to work as a body. All joint agreements in the world work like that.
So those seem to me to be fair definitions, without equivocation. If you don't think so, please feel free to drill down more specifically.
That's never happened. Not once. Learn how to read instead of clutching your pearls, and stop being an insufferable faggot. Or are you trying to beat Bill Mitchell at his own game?!?
He adamantly denies the flesh of My Lord, there's no backing down from that.
And you try to foist on us a God who can only speak middle English, everyone has their blind spots
Would you rather have a god that dazzles you with his Grecian prose or One that tries to make sure you can understand what He's telling you?
That's a lie.
Yet there's no reason to call you a demon just because you lie all the time.
It's not adamant if it's contradictory and he doesn't realize it's contradictory. "Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity."