The Principle rides upon supernatural beliefs. Those are not provable in any scientific way and they cannot be taken as rational grounds for anything.
As for the rest, apparently you are not a disciplined nor well schooled thinker so this is really a waste. I can't spend time on it. And flat earth is a haven for both poor thinkers and trolls, so goodbye to that.
It is remarkably pro bible / traditional catholic views, but the thesis of the documentary is not supernatural. Even if it were, what we are discussing isn't. There is no supernatural belief in the recognition of the historical fact that geocentrism is discarded for philosophical, and not scientific, reasons. The documentary does a great job showing the historical inception and chronology of that philosophical bias, as well as its impacts today with modern cosmology and cosmologists; which, even when presented with compelling evidence that the earth is at the center (as it appears to us by observation), are so disturbed philosophically by such data as to discard it and continue to stubbornly cling to antiquated models which plainly conflict with such data/observations. Bias is pernicious, and as you say - it has everything to do with belief (the enemy of knowledge, and the possibility of objective study of any kind). Scientists are people too and they always deludedly think "we aren't superstitious (now)" in every age.
Those are not provable in any scientific way
Precisely the point! There is nothing provable or disprovable about a geocentric model. In truth, astronomy/cosmology is largely not science at all. One of the more interesting quotes from the documentary is from michio kaku admitting that in no uncertain terms - astrophycisists do not employ the scientific method - and as such are not scientists nor practice science. They are closer to mathematicians - theorists at best.
In any case - can you not answer my question? What specifically from the documentary did you find illogical, and what logic did it violate?
so this is really a waste.
If you say so. I don't think exchanging and exploring views with others of differing views is a waste unless you let it be. In general, it's called learning.
Besides, if you are "the learned" then sharing your wisdom with the less educated is also not a waste of time! It is the responsibility of us with knowledge to share it with others! Hoarding it while simultaneously maligning others for lacking it is cruel and self defeating/reinforcing.
And flat earth is a haven for both poor thinkers and trolls
The heavily advertised (i.e. funded) flat earth psyop - yes, i agree. The actual subject itself, as well as exploring such questions as "what is the true shape of the world, could i be wrong about it, and how can i prove it to myself and others?" is almost exclusively for intellectuals and capable autodidactic students only. It takes a great deal of intellectual fortitude, capacity, and bravery to recognize and admit that you could be (and likely are) wrong about a great many things you were taught. The fools and trolls, on the other hand, can only parrot what they were taught and reflexively/mindlessly attack any heretics which challenge their dogmas :(
The Principle rides upon supernatural beliefs. Those are not provable in any scientific way and they cannot be taken as rational grounds for anything.
As for the rest, apparently you are not a disciplined nor well schooled thinker so this is really a waste. I can't spend time on it. And flat earth is a haven for both poor thinkers and trolls, so goodbye to that.
It is remarkably pro bible / traditional catholic views, but the thesis of the documentary is not supernatural. Even if it were, what we are discussing isn't. There is no supernatural belief in the recognition of the historical fact that geocentrism is discarded for philosophical, and not scientific, reasons. The documentary does a great job showing the historical inception and chronology of that philosophical bias, as well as its impacts today with modern cosmology and cosmologists; which, even when presented with compelling evidence that the earth is at the center (as it appears to us by observation), are so disturbed philosophically by such data as to discard it and continue to stubbornly cling to antiquated models which plainly conflict with such data/observations. Bias is pernicious, and as you say - it has everything to do with belief (the enemy of knowledge, and the possibility of objective study of any kind). Scientists are people too and they always deludedly think "we aren't superstitious (now)" in every age.
Precisely the point! There is nothing provable or disprovable about a geocentric model. In truth, astronomy/cosmology is largely not science at all. One of the more interesting quotes from the documentary is from michio kaku admitting that in no uncertain terms - astrophycisists do not employ the scientific method - and as such are not scientists nor practice science. They are closer to mathematicians - theorists at best.
In any case - can you not answer my question? What specifically from the documentary did you find illogical, and what logic did it violate?
If you say so. I don't think exchanging and exploring views with others of differing views is a waste unless you let it be. In general, it's called learning.
Besides, if you are "the learned" then sharing your wisdom with the less educated is also not a waste of time! It is the responsibility of us with knowledge to share it with others! Hoarding it while simultaneously maligning others for lacking it is cruel and self defeating/reinforcing.
The heavily advertised (i.e. funded) flat earth psyop - yes, i agree. The actual subject itself, as well as exploring such questions as "what is the true shape of the world, could i be wrong about it, and how can i prove it to myself and others?" is almost exclusively for intellectuals and capable autodidactic students only. It takes a great deal of intellectual fortitude, capacity, and bravery to recognize and admit that you could be (and likely are) wrong about a great many things you were taught. The fools and trolls, on the other hand, can only parrot what they were taught and reflexively/mindlessly attack any heretics which challenge their dogmas :(