Unfortunately you have no science learning background at all.
Astronomy is centuries old, long before there were governments with space agencies. We have been doing observations for a very long time and they ALL support our knowledge of the place of earth in the larger universe framework.
The 'earth is the center of the universe' argument was disproved long long ago.
Do not try to connect covid and space coverups, the reasoning is completely invalid.
you talk out your arse alot eh. Ancients all believed in a small geocentric universe with us at the center, the Ptolemaic model was geocentric with us at the center. Tycho braha expanded on it and made the most accurate model we've ever hade. It also had us in the center.
your model comes from 17th century Jesuits, namely Copernicus. Who most likely murdered Tycho and then stole his work to create early heliocentrism.
science learning lol how about you learn some history
The 'earth is the center of the universe' argument was disproved long long ago.
Interestingly, no - that was never done. It was originally accepted by the pope on the recommendation by his advisers that it (the heliocentric model) be accepted for purely mathematical reasons (not scientific, or based on any particular observation, proof, or "disproof").
I highly recommend the documentary called "The Principle" on the subject. It is well worth a watch (or two).
Jesus H Christ, you people come out of the woodwork with illogic.
Anyone who has ever taken an astronomy course knows pretty well that it is nonsense to maintain the earth is the center of celestial bodies. The sun does not circle around the earth, the planet earth is a subsidiary of the solar system not its center. Centuries of astronomical observation data shows that. Deferral to religious doctrine bases things on the supernatural and not the real.
The movie The Principle is absolute crackpot, full of bizarre illogic. For heaven's sake do not take it seriously.
What specifically do you find that i've said which is illogical, and why?
Anyone who has ever taken an astronomy course knows pretty well that it is nonsense to maintain the earth is the center of celestial bodies
The whole point is it is taught as "nonsense" and excluded as a "maintainable" model on purely philosophical grounds. Not scientific ones!
The sun does not circle around the earth, the planet earth is a subsidiary of the solar system not its center.
So we are taught, yes. But that does not make it so! Much (if not most) of what we are taught is wrong, just like historically and for the same reasons.
Centuries of astronomical observation data shows that
There is no observational data that fundamentally contradicts a geocentric model. That's the whole point! The reason it is excluded is for philosophical reasons, not scientific ones. Even with strong evidence supporting it and contradicting currently popular models (such as anisotropic cmb/matter etc.).
Deferral to religious doctrine bases things on the supernatural and not the real.
I am not advocating for deferral to religious doctrine.
The movie The Principle is absolute crackpot, full of bizarre illogic.
So you've actually watched it? I didn't find anything illogical, or more importantly - historically inaccurate - about it, though admittedly it is a bit of a catholic (ex-catholic, to be specific) propaganda piece. That doesn't prevent it from being a good documentary.
Again, what specifically did you find illogical? Maybe list a few things and explain what logic they violate?
For heaven's sake do not take it seriously.
I think it worth seriously evaluating and considering - but i agree that nothing should be accepted before your own rigorous critical evaluation and validation.
The Principle rides upon supernatural beliefs. Those are not provable in any scientific way and they cannot be taken as rational grounds for anything.
As for the rest, apparently you are not a disciplined nor well schooled thinker so this is really a waste. I can't spend time on it. And flat earth is a haven for both poor thinkers and trolls, so goodbye to that.
Unfortunately you have no science learning background at all.
Astronomy is centuries old, long before there were governments with space agencies. We have been doing observations for a very long time and they ALL support our knowledge of the place of earth in the larger universe framework.
The 'earth is the center of the universe' argument was disproved long long ago.
Do not try to connect covid and space coverups, the reasoning is completely invalid.
you talk out your arse alot eh. Ancients all believed in a small geocentric universe with us at the center, the Ptolemaic model was geocentric with us at the center. Tycho braha expanded on it and made the most accurate model we've ever hade. It also had us in the center.
your model comes from 17th century Jesuits, namely Copernicus. Who most likely murdered Tycho and then stole his work to create early heliocentrism.
science learning lol how about you learn some history
I used to consider you tolerable but now know you are an idiot in a rusty red pickup and a wife-beater shirt and a shotgun. Blahhh.
lol my truck is gray and i don't own a shotgun, I do have a crossbow though.
Interestingly, no - that was never done. It was originally accepted by the pope on the recommendation by his advisers that it (the heliocentric model) be accepted for purely mathematical reasons (not scientific, or based on any particular observation, proof, or "disproof").
I highly recommend the documentary called "The Principle" on the subject. It is well worth a watch (or two).
Jesus H Christ, you people come out of the woodwork with illogic. Anyone who has ever taken an astronomy course knows pretty well that it is nonsense to maintain the earth is the center of celestial bodies. The sun does not circle around the earth, the planet earth is a subsidiary of the solar system not its center. Centuries of astronomical observation data shows that. Deferral to religious doctrine bases things on the supernatural and not the real.
The movie The Principle is absolute crackpot, full of bizarre illogic. For heaven's sake do not take it seriously.
What specifically do you find that i've said which is illogical, and why?
The whole point is it is taught as "nonsense" and excluded as a "maintainable" model on purely philosophical grounds. Not scientific ones!
So we are taught, yes. But that does not make it so! Much (if not most) of what we are taught is wrong, just like historically and for the same reasons.
There is no observational data that fundamentally contradicts a geocentric model. That's the whole point! The reason it is excluded is for philosophical reasons, not scientific ones. Even with strong evidence supporting it and contradicting currently popular models (such as anisotropic cmb/matter etc.).
I am not advocating for deferral to religious doctrine.
So you've actually watched it? I didn't find anything illogical, or more importantly - historically inaccurate - about it, though admittedly it is a bit of a catholic (ex-catholic, to be specific) propaganda piece. That doesn't prevent it from being a good documentary.
Again, what specifically did you find illogical? Maybe list a few things and explain what logic they violate?
I think it worth seriously evaluating and considering - but i agree that nothing should be accepted before your own rigorous critical evaluation and validation.
The Principle rides upon supernatural beliefs. Those are not provable in any scientific way and they cannot be taken as rational grounds for anything.
As for the rest, apparently you are not a disciplined nor well schooled thinker so this is really a waste. I can't spend time on it. And flat earth is a haven for both poor thinkers and trolls, so goodbye to that.