News like this, shows what?
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You're an idiot.
There were/are peace talks. Jeddah. Saudi Arabia, China, few others. Last week.
They gained nothing except more talks. They aren't going to gain anything either. Not this year. Not unless either side do something significant. Neither side are.
There is fatigue on this topic. The term fatigue means. Dumb munch. Means will the narrative change towards peace as objective. Or will it continue to write a blank check.
Fatigue the funding lessens. Western Media stops going on about it. Makes a peace deal.
It can happen on change of government. The other government campaigning changes policy.
It won't happen this year. Hence any talks do nothing else. Nothing at all. Unless there is something more significant, we will all continue to be bored by it. Fatigue, boring.
Autumn/winter approaches. Wet ground delays all offensive actions. It delayed Russia starting the conflict. It delayed the Ukrainian Counter Offense. Those Vehicles tanks, personnel carrier get used more for defense during those months. Offensive operations stall. They did last year.
Tanks aren't for show if they're properly used. Ukraine hasn't used them effectively. Russia also had problems in its early campaign.
You chat so much crap.
The war is Ukraine versus Russia. Nato could pull funding tomorrow and nothing would've happened. It can keep funding Ukraine, and nothing will happen. It is not fighting Russia. It doesn't matter what it does or doesn't. Russia has not gone to war against Nato. It is fighting Ukraine. It really hasn't defeated it yet, or anything else.
Rhetoric suggest it's Russia versus Nato, it causes morale, if it's the reason for hosility, because when it's your brother, Ukraine, people ask why. It plays them off. It needs reasons. No Russia isn't fighting Nato. Not yet. Not properly. Yes it is fighting Nato if you're a Russian. Or perhaps if you're in Nato. But as a European or American. They're not fighting Russia. Ukraine are, and who were they. Nobody else.
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No. There were talks in Saudi Arabia that (1) excluded Russia and (2) started from Ukraine's premise that pre-USA disaster, no-longer-existing (former) Ukraine would be magically restored. . . and only then could peace discussions begin. Zelensky is a [edit] Servant of The Synagogue of Satan , a [/edit] traitor, an enemy of the former Ukraine. Only a complete fool would ever call these "peace talks". They were for show. China participated. I think it, China, wants to see who is singing which tune.
Ukraine is not in a position to use tanks effectively, and it never (again) will be. It is not in a position to have an army; it is not in a position to exist. Ukraine is a corpse in a bath of US taxpayers' money, arbitrary billions of US money. The fate of NATO is - probably - at stake.
I mean (you don't know, but) look at what I showed you before https://liveuamap.com/en/2023/13-august-ukrainian-defence-forces-continue-offensive-operations Ukraine is hardly even fighting. The Billions aren't going to Ukraine, they're being drained from the dying USA.
Saudi/China. Many others. It wasn't only those nations.
More are concern with what. Tell me their concerns and why Ukraine thinks it matters more.
The shortages on crop and energy are causing concerns. Set to cause how much more conflict globally.
Automatically it presumes talking points. But it means nothing else. Ukraine's output has fallen regardless. It will take years before it has the same yields, its surplus, distribution, and infrastructure are irreparable for years.
However this conflict was designed to cause what. That is why it drags. They're both in on it, causing. A shift in geopolitics, new methods of trade, and industry.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/13/7415369/
I really laugh at this shit. They got it so wrong, but they continue to flick mud at that wall and hope it sticks.
They're hoping to precipitate a rift between the two. Because of oh my god the coup.
Instead of it being the double bluff it was. Are Wagner's position better or worse. What is that position doing and why. If Wagner were out of the loop why Niger then?
Everyday those reactors fire up hoping mud sticks to a wall. Who reads it. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/13/ukraine-sappers-mine-clearers-russia-war
No war causes it, and we never heard about Ukrainians until today. Their pointless stories. I don't remember minesweepers given so much air time, ever. In fact it doesn't get aired when it's your national army doing their job. Aw poor Sergay. He needs your charity. No sir. Fuck off.
Yeah, we're on the same page. That fucking article, Jesus Christ.
According to Scott Ritter (who may or may not be compromised; some of his videos are - used to be - kinda off, and he sometimes uses "we" when talking about Russia) in Russia (which he toured a few months back) the state and local authorities have more money than they know what to do with (probably an exageration). Because . . . . get this. . . western sanctions have stopped the oligarchs from moving their money out of Russia. Now the oligarchs have to (1) keep thier money in Russia and (2) pay Russian tax - which is a flat 13% that basically everyone pays. So at the end of the last 2 Russian financial years, many cities have unspent budgets and are scrambling to sign off on a few more bridges, hospitals, a university or two . . .
Wagner in Niger is interesting. Russia recently forgave a 13 Billion USD debt, so they are probably in the Niger good books, but who knows? I don't know. Maybe it is partially the Wagner brand image: seasoned NATO thumping street fighter. I am pretty sure that Niger will be played, at least in part, as a distraction from the possibly unfavourable (to the west) "re-interpretation" of the Ukranian conflict. Fucking cynical: let's encourage war to help our PR. Jesus H Christ.
The poor fucking Ukranians. Most were just trying to get along.
Interesting about the tax and sanctions. I doubt billionaire tax fully caused gains to the budget. Sanctions on the other hand have caused? Economically, it seems Russia aren't crumbling by them.
Wagner is not what is being aired by Western media. They keep getting it wrong. It like every other piece of press regarding the conflict has no credible source. It's fickle. It wants Wagner to be something. It wants Russia to lose. But constantly warns it isn't. I am sure it's convincing somebody. Somebody dumb who has no memory and no thought. Because the press one minute later, says something else.
The facts speak for themselves. Look at it. Double bluff. It needed a narrative. It needed to reposition. Why like that. Because it's. Why is it.
Every single time. Who knows. Except look at it. It obviously isn't. It's the head of an opposing army telling the press it needs to degrade morale, so it better keep the line Wagner are such, because if it can, then it gains. Simply look at what's occurred.
Niger, who knows, retaliation for longer range missiles, anything. Pipelines, transit, infrastructure could be affected. Who knows how it plays out. There are plenty of other reasons regionally being exploited, as costs inflate. Nothing new. A hotspot. Like many more occurring as any conflict drags out. Sides.
They're denying Wagner had any involvement because they're still keeping to the line Wagner are exiled, and now they aren't being funded, they're shrinking. Because Russia is imploding. Except somehow that's wrong. Look at it. It's the fickle media trying to convince somebody.