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Any flat earthers left here?
posted 2 years ago by Eisenhorn 2 years ago by Eisenhorn +11 / -10

How does the climate work on a flat earth? Why does it get colder the further north or south or up you go?

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– jack445566778899 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

If you (or anyone) are ever earnestly interested in questions like this, please join us over on flatearthresearch!

How does the climate work on a flat earth? Why does it get colder the further north or south or up you go?

This is tellingly difficult for the indoctrinated/biased to recognize, but almost nothing depends on the believed sphericity of the world. Neither the climate or the colder latitudes require the world to be a sphere. The climate works the same way it does now (generally driven by the sun as far as we know)

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Please present a model that explains all these thing then.

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– jack445566778899 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

You misunderstand.

Models are not for explanation.

Consider the geocentric model. We have it, and it still works very well today. Does that prove that the universe is geocentric?

Models are not for explanation - they are for (limited) use!

Having a model or not having a model is meaningless. Analogously, having an explanation or lacking one is equally meaningless. Furthermore, contriving explanation is trivial; Almost all mythology is explanation... What matters is if the explanations are correct!

If i had a model of a flat world (trivial, but time consuming, to create), surely that wouldn’t prove the world flat - right? For the exact same reasons the geocentric model doesn’t (and can’t, fundamentally) prove that the earth is the center of the universe.

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– Eisenhorn [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If i had a model of a flat world (trivial, but time consuming, to create),

Do you think that I am asking for a physical model like a diorama?

I am asking for a model in a sense that you provide measurements, a map, documentation of observations etc.

None of that seems to exist for a flat earth. Just vague claims and 5-hour long videos with more vague claims.

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– jack445566778899 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Do you think that I am asking for a physical model like a diorama?

Lol. There is a lot of equivocation fallacy (often unintentional) surrounding the use of the word “model”. Most people have no idea what a scientific model is, how it is made, or why. For instance, you are under the (common/popularized) misapprehension that they are used, or can be used, to prove things about reality (either inside of science or outside of it).

None of that seems to exist for a flat earth

In the scientific sense/use of the word “model”, no. There are many maps, conceptions, physical “dioramas” etc. available, however - but that is NOT the same thing, as you correctly point out.

What you are missing is that having or not having a model is meaningless. The earth remains the shape it is regardless of what our contrived models depict. Did you understand the point i was making about the geocentric model?

Just vague claims and 5-hour long videos with more vague claims.

There is more than that (what you describe above, which i generally consider the flat earth psyop) but the heavily advertised (i.e. funded) flat earth psyop obfuscates it. That is one of its major purposes, ostensibly.

Earnest researchers, what i call flat earth researchers, do exist - and like most researchers - often do not make any videos. In any case, i loathe the 5 hour infotainment junk too.

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