Why does Jesus call a gentile woman who came to him to help her daughter a dog in Matthew 15:26?
Jesus also says Matthew 15:24, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel"
Only after his ascension does he say make disciples of all nations.
Sometimes I feel like the end part of the story was just modified or they added that on so that the gentile would feel included.
Also, if Jews gave false testimony at the trial of Jesus, then why do Christians allow jews to RUN THE FUCKING JUSTICE DEPARTMENT in 2023?
Also, if jews gave false testimony and demanded EXECUTION of your messiah, why do you let them run your banks and corporations and control your country? Why do you send your white Christian children to go die in Jew provoked wars if these same liars got your messiah murdered?
The mental gymnastics Christians go through to answer these questions is funny. Some old lady in church told me that God chose Jews to fulfill these prophecies to open the eyes of gentiles. LOL So Judas was "a chosen peoples" who you revere? The jews at the boston childrens hospital mutilating white boys genitals in 2023 are fulfilling God's plans? WTF? The Jews at TEVA Pharmaceuticals selling your white christian boy puberty blockers are fulfilling God's plans?
Oh, I get it. You have a bone to pick with Christianity. Let's attempt to resolve that and see if you would really listen or just continue your attacks...
"Why does Jesus call a gentile woman who came to him to help her daughter a dog in Matthew 15:26?" - It's a comparison of someone bred with discipline to someone bred without. Jews, in the old days, have been disciplined. Obviously, not all of them, but their traditions is what saved them to avoid being as reckless as dogs. When a Jew nowadays turns to Christianity, he/she is way more vocal and adamant to preserve people. You must've caught a glimpse of this at least in your lifetime.
"Jesus also says Matthew 15:24, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel" - And so he was.
"Only after his ascension does he say make disciples of all nations." - Correct. If you can imagine what is to be a parent, how would you react when your child comes back angry at you in comparison to coming back regretting the evil and wanting help? Isn't your choice as a parent based on the choice of the child? You think about that for a while.
"Sometimes I feel like the end part of the story was just modified or they added that on so that the gentile would feel included." - That is factually incorrect. All people strive to be good and all people can become Christians. Good moral code is not forbidden to anyone. Well, technically not true for MK Ultra victims but let's leave that for a moment. Oh, actually Cathy O'Brien got saved by Jesus and is the main MK Ultra victim that speaks out. Do you know that? I think you should.
"Also, if Jews gave false testimony at the trial of Jesus, then why do Christians allow jews to RUN THE FUCKING JUSTICE DEPARTMENT in 2023?" - That's way out there... You know people would do something if they could. You blame Christians, when you should blame the Satanists... Cmon... I can allow you to vent, but this is not even remotely logical as an argument as the one you put forth usually. Think it over... Christians don't agree with the justice department. They make it obvious for others that the closest it has to justice is its name. You speak against the Justice Department, should I also blame for not taking it down already? Cmon... weak argument.
"Also, if jews gave false testimony and demanded EXECUTION of your messiah, why do you let them run your banks and corporations and control your country? Why do you send your white Christian children to go die in Jew provoked wars if these same liars got your messiah murdered?" - That's the same as before. You are clearly venting some bottled up emotions. True Christians don't do that. But hate as much as you want the fake Christians - everyone does and should. I am also not a real Christian, I do what I can but I have my flaws and definitely will not go in heaven. But when things get tough, we always like those people with good morals to help us... The truth is that you will find all presented in the Bible as plain as I can never make it. But I guess you read some bits and pieces like myself long time ago and got angry because of the unfairness in the world. Anyway, It's as lame argument as the one before. I will let you rethink that and send in a better way if you want.
"The mental gymnastics Christians go through to answer these questions is funny." - Aaaah, here are the common attacks. :D Yes, MORE INSULTS. That usually helps all arguments everywhere! :D Oh, I knew you would stoop this low.
"Some old lady in church told me that God chose Jews to fulfill these prophecies to open the eyes of gentiles." - Great example. Do you have more old ladies' tales. Because I am here to listen to any explanation you never understood and you are now angry because of it. Please keep them coming. I take notes.
"So Judas was "a chosen peoples" who you revere?" - That's a logic that you invert for yourself. He was clearly not revered. He was punished, as written in the Bible. Not all jews are good. Clearly, again, written in the Bible. Actually, if you read it in full, you will find A LOT of Jews who were against God. A, FUCKING, LOT. But I guess cherry-picking arguments is your thing. Just don't spread it around, please.
"The jews at the boston childrens hospital mutilating white boys genitals in 2023 are fulfilling God's plans? WTF?" - Here's the attacks. No problem, you should only read the New Testament to confirm that the form of "mutilation" is no longer in effect. If you actually read the Moses story, the problem that Jews faced back then was that they were few, and apparently this was a way to make them many as promised to Abraham (whose name means father of many nations). But you will not see that God fulfils his duty and provides many warriors when we need them. You only see the current mutilation and the perversion of Jews and you incorrectly attribute that to God. I will let you feed on your own poison. As many sins I have committed in my life, I would stay away from that one. If you read the Bible, you would see that a tradition that was so far in the past had meaning then, now it doesn't - that's why there is a New Testament.
"The Jews at TEVA Pharmaceuticals selling your white christian boy puberty blockers are fulfilling God's plans?" - Again, Satanists... You seem to call anyone that you don't like a Jew. Are all Jews in pharmaceuticals? Are they really Jews are they hiding behind this because of WWII and can blame anyone who disagrees with them of being anti-semetic? It's sad that you let Satanist's tricks fool you. Yet, you seem like you're using your mental capacity for good. But your anger makes you a slave to your emotions. Not a pretty sight.
I get you though, anger because of the injustice (such as the one that we all feel since we have gathered in this forum to discuss them...), but your direction is incorrect. You get angry of some group of people, while the truth is that the top of every race and creed is involved in the NWO. As angry as you are, I am sure deep down you know this, but don't like to admit it. Jews are the main tool. If you research what the devil does, he always tries to invert what God does. Certainly, the devil would focus on the Jews more than the gentiles. And he got a big portion of them. He got them good. Should we burn all Jews for that? I don't think so. Should I put all the blames of your race on you and treat you as I should treat the worst of your kind? Or would you say "My race does not define me"? Here's a little, how did you call it... "mental gymnastics"...
I grow tired of replying this. It's a very long comment already. If you want a real discussion, leave your anger out of this. I also hate the Jews in majority, but I am not blind to see that many Jews are still doing God's work. They don't get mentioned anywhere, they don't get praise, they even get killed. But the media promotes those fake Jews in power... Fair? Or not fair?
I'll leave you to a quote that you seem to forget or you never read from the Bible: "King James Bible
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. - https://biblehub.com/revelation/3-9.htm"
I guess that's a spoiler that many Satanists call themselves Jews to blend in. Oh, you didn't know that? It was common knowledge 2000 years ago.
I wish I wasn't the person to talk to you about this subject. I am sure someone else would do far better job to explain the justice and truth in the Bible. But you clearly never read it. Cherry-picking from it only makes you confused... There are many versions of it already, Satan wasn't lazy to try to confuse us on that topic. It's only sad that you fall for a trap that is at least 2000 years old. At least to my knowledge.
Final thing - your worst enemies are anger and arrogance. You befriended intelligence too much it seems. You think you are bulletproof at this point. Isn't that fueled by arrogance? There's this saying about anger that I memorized "If you don't master your anger, your anger will master you". Give some time to review the anger you express in your comment, you might be surprised at the amount of twisted things that makes you write. Do you know how I know this? I was you about 5 years ago. Or perhaps 4 years. Actually, it doesn't matter... several years ago I had the same problem with Christianity and the fact that "God allows this". But think about it - without the horrible things that men commit, how would you recognize the wonders that God provides? Anyway, intelligent people often fall for the arrogant trap because they cannot find a worthy opponent. When they do, they often display anger to further their arguments and reach down to petty insults instead of arguments. But I am not a fool, God granted me the knowledge of psychology for that specific reason and I hope many others. God has also granted you intelligence, but it will be a shame to go to the waste of arrogance and anger... They only seek to destroy you. You should be wise not to obey them at this point. They are the main weapons of Satan. Or Jews. Or Justice Department... However you want to call it... Anyway, I have extended to you despite of your anger fits. I have provided a lot of information that you should read from the Bible, not just believe what I said. If you don't do that, I will know for sure from your reply. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
I upvoted you for the effort and time put into your response.
However, I cannot say that I am satisfied with the response. Christianity seems ill equipped to deal with the modern evil of the world. Turning the cheek only promises your demise unto your grave. Your messiah was nailed to a cross and if you continue to turn the cheek your children are going to be persecuted too. Christianity takes glory in persecution just like the black takes joy in crying racism or goblin Greenblatt takes joy in crying holocaust at the ADL.
The churches locked down when government told them to and put masks on when government told them to. You subscribe to a higher God but do whatever the fuck government tells you to?
Muslims would sooner stone a sodomite than a Christian. Yet the Christian looks down upon the Muslim. Yet in the Christian community, transsexual pedophiles dressed in drag perform sexual dances and read gay stories to children in the public library.
Christians believe they are saved by the blood sacrifice of another. Why does God's forgiveness require suffering and pain and murder?
Why are you told to eat the flesh of Jesus? Is this cannibalism? Some more weird occult symbolism? Why are you drinking another man's blood?
Why do Christians pick and choose which parts of the old testament they like/ Some parts are in contradiction to the new testament. The Torah and New Testament are not meant to be together. Doesn't even seem like the same God. A vengeful God of the old testament lets his own son get nailed to a tree int he new testament?
"True Christians don't do that..."
Well who gets to say who is the true Christian? Who isn't? Which of the 500+ denominations is the "true Christian"?
Yes I have bottled up rage and thirst to exact justice. Because Christians haven't been on the fucking job. In white Christian civilization everything devolves into hell rapidly because Christians turn muh cheek. Tolerance is a false virtue taught in christian churches as much as it is through democrat indoctrination centers.
True Christians impale the perpetrators of evil. You end up on a pike before i end up on a cross. No turning the cheek. No waiting for eventual rapture for another thousand years. The time is now. We take back our freedom today. No white hats. No q-tard hopium. No one day Jesus will come back and not be martyred this time.
Would it not be more reverent of God to take action now? If Christianity were a scam, they'd want you to turn the cheek and do nothing for another thousand years.
Obviously when the colonialists fled the Catholic Church of Europe they were fleeing persecution and the corruption of the Christian church establishment. Don't get suckered into another thousand years of serfdom and cheek turning.
Hold on now. I see the same questions I asked when I was questioning Christianity.
Christianity seems ill equipped to deal with the modern evil of the world. Turning the cheek only promises your demise unto your grave.
Is that really so? Have you seen a person so angry that they to hurt someone less powerful then them, but when they realize that the person is not fighting back (turning the other cheek), something inside them forces them to stop and reevaluate their actions? What I am saying is, are you sure that God's way doesn't actually lead to salvation? Jesus died on the Cross, yet, God could've just killed everyone who hurt him, right? But there was this one centurion (meaning Roman soldier) that pierced Jesus with his spear (to confirm he was dead), and from his body went blood and water??? And the Roman centurion became a believe at that very spot. Who else can bleed water from their body? I know it sounds amazing... but that's what God is - unattainable for us to understand. Beyond our comprehension. Think about it - We were not perfect, but why do we wish for a world that is perfect. We were not pure, yet why do we wish to have a world of purity? We were not truthful, yet why do we wish to have a world of truth?
Jesus died and 2000 years later he is called a KING and people are ready to die for him. Do you make your plans as "I will die for this cause, but perhaps 2000 years from now people around the world - both jews and gentiles will call me king"?
So, sorry for the reply on your first question, but turning the other cheek has proven benefits: It reaches to the person's consciousness... When you don't make them stop, something inside them makes them stop. And they really listen to that voice when you turn the other cheek.
I know it is hard to submit in full to God, I haven't done that... but I am trying. We have all watched those superman, batman, w/e man that have superpowers... meaning they try to imitate God. Isn't the devil the main instrument in creating them? Check the first 2 minutes of this - https://www.bitchute.com/video/vxevo3jsJyKI/ (The intros are 1:10 minutes long, just skip them, bitchute doesn't save a time-stamp)
"Your messiah was nailed to a cross and if you continue to turn the cheek your children are going to be persecuted too." - They were. I will try to reduce my answers to compensate for the long first reply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGHI-b1fsPM
"Christianity takes glory in persecution just like the black takes joy in crying racism or goblin Greenblatt takes joy in crying holocaust at the ADL." - You confuse the Roman Catholic Church for Actual Christianity. Please study history. Every True Christian knows the Catholic Church is the Anti-Christ written in the Bible. Read the Bible.
"The churches locked down when government told them to and put masks on when government told them to. You subscribe to a higher God but do whatever the fuck government tells you to?" - Christians don't comply to Churches, nor Governments. It is written in the Bible that we should stay away from the multitude. Our Higher God is Great Morals, just like Great Morals is our Higher God. That's what God is! God is the Ultimate Truth, and when I tell a lie, I know I have made a mistake. But when I spot a lie, I know the other person has made a mistake. Do you see my point? God is The Greatest Ideal in Moral Values.
"Muslims would sooner stone a sodomite than a Christian. Yet the Christian looks down upon the Muslim. Yet in the Christian community, transsexual pedophiles dressed in drag perform sexual dances and read gay stories to children in the public library." - You clearly are buying what the media wants to tell you that a Christian is, or what a Muslim is... You never read the Bible or the Quran. I posted recently a video where a Quran and Christian scholar has turned a Muslim away from Christianity... Because he only quoted the twisted texts from the Quran and people are realizing their Moral Values don't align with the Quran. Btw, Muhammed was a Jesuit agent sent in the 7th century to fabricate the wars between the Muslims and the Catholic Church. Early controlled opposition. Very effective, because the land was where Christianity was evolving. Yet, as you can clearly see, unsuccessful. Anyway, long discussion for another time. Research history, the templar/muslim wars, the Bible, and the Quran for more details.
"Christians believe they are saved by the blood sacrifice of another. Why does God's forgiveness require suffering and pain and murder?" - Again, read the Bible. What you suffered in life is not even comparable to what God has suffered from his own children. If I were you, I would keep that tongue behind my teeth before I learn more on the God I dare to insult... Really, read the Bible. I know I am getting annoying with that, but this book is truly magical. The power of the devil comes from that to make you hate the Bible and never read it. Yet, if it is truly the Holy Grimoire, the Truth should leap right at your face. REMEMBER! God wants you to be his child! He cares about you more than any parent has ever cared about you! Don't let the Roman Catholic Church use Guilt to fake a different image of their god... God is loving! He is Merciful! He is Your Father! Just read on Jesus - this is God in the flesh, or Emmanuel a.k.a. "God walks among us".
Life is pain and suffering. You must read the etymology on the word "pathos". It means "suffering". Just like empathy or EM + pathos means the add-suffering of another. Or sympathy, meaning Sym + pathos is the co-suffering or another. If you want to truly point the finger at the ones that made this world a suffering - point it at the Satanists, not God. God created a perfect garden that humans ruined... Humans and the snake. You should really read the Bible. It will make much more sense, if you try to seek sense in it. Not when you try to seek imperfections in it.
"Why are you told to eat the flesh of Jesus? Is this cannibalism? Some more weird occult symbolism? Why are you drinking another man's blood?" - Catholic propaganda. Do you know "Hocus Pocus" comes from Lutherans that disagreed that the bread is the body of Christ and Catholics were making a scam? Just like hocus pocus? I don't have space to explain, please research that additionally.
"Why do Christians pick and choose which parts of the old testament they like/ Some parts are in cont" - Incorrect. I told you already about bad Christians. I am a bad Christian. I don't follow all rules by God. I try to, but they are really hard at times. The ones, who pick are evil. The ones, who feel guilty because they don't follow them, are also evil I guess, but at least they would speak about them.
"True Christians don't do that..."
Well who gets to say who is the true Christian? Who isn't? Which of the 500+ denominations is the "true Christian"? - THE BOOK. I haven't underlined that so much? Cmon... I knew you were not reading what I wrote in full. Now you expose yourself. The Book is magic. Are you really unable to test that for one second? Read from the BOOK! Do you expect your eyes to fall out or something? All my arguments can never match the scripture! That's why many Christians will quote the Bible... Well, I don't know it so well to quote it. But are you afraid of the BOOK? If you want to understand what true Christian is - Read From the Book! Please! In the worst case, it is just a book. In the best case, you will find the power and direction in life that you need. I cannot answer these questions about "true Christians". I am not one. I know many would like to say they are ones, but they are not... And the book shows why... We are all trying to be good Christians... Don't expect me to defend the perfect Christians, as I am NOT one of them. I try to be good, but I fall short. Read about Jesus, he was a perfect Christian.
"Yes I have bottled up rage and thirst to exact justice. Because Christians haven't been on the fucking job. In white Christian civilization everything devolves into hell rapidly because Christians turn muh cheek. Tolerance is a false virtue taught in christian churches as much as it is through democrat indoctrination centers." - Do you want me to disagree with that? :D It is the same reason I am trying to force myself to post against common insults to defend the truth... BUT I must disagree with that comment "white Christian civilization"... I would like for you to investigate who was the originator of respecting women more than cattle in history... Of course, Jesus showed the way, but apparently the white Christian civilization followed. Just so you know the topic you speak of... You were born out of a Mother, were you not? Chivalry is a... how did you say it? "white Christian civilization" kind of a thing... Careful. Some of the arguments that you use I can let slide, but some are reaching the line... But you admit that rage, so I can see myself in that situation... Still, I was raised mainly by women, so I kinda take it personally. Just research Chivalry and compare it to other nations. I don't promote white race, I just say that whites are lucky that Jesus's followers chose to walk among them.
"True Christians impale the perpetrators of evil. You end up on a pike before i end up on a cross. No turning the cheek. No waiting for eventual rapture for another thousand years. The time is now. We take back our freedom today. No white hats. No q-tard hopium. No one day Jesus will come back and not be martyred this time." - Incorrect. The Roman Church and the Spanish Inquisition do NOT represent Christianity - READ THE BOOK. Sorry for the caps, but that's my main argument. Jesus stands against those acts, why would you attribute them to God, but fail to see the Satanists behind this plan??
"Would it not be more reverent of God to take action now? If Christianity were a scam, they'd want you to turn the cheek and do nothing for another thousand years." - Careful. I hope to raise some awareness in you that it is not safe to speak about God that you don't understand. I have done this and I fear my judgement on that topic. You seem to speak freely on topic that you never investigated... I have been in your place. I cursed God. I HONESTLY can tell you - don't repeat my mistake. Is a fkin book so hard to read??!?! Please read the Bible before you speak about God you never understood! You speak so freely because you don't expect God to smite you this second... But would you speak freely insults about a Father that Loves you and Waits for your to Return to His Family? Careful, pal. Let's make a deal - you speak against Christianity when you read the Book! Insult Christians, insult me, but before you insult Christianity, the Father, or the Son - you read the book! Deal?!
Christians will just turn the other cheek. God is loving, caring, and patient... should you continue to insult him??? Are you BRAVE for insulting someone who is totally ready to forgive you? Wow, so much power... I've had enough of it! How about you read about the God you so fearlessly insult? Would you insult in the same way the mother that gave birth to you? Seriously. I know you get angry, and I have been at your place, but make less mistakes in a single comment, please! Insult me for not being accurate about Christianity. Insult the fake Christians all around. But to insult God before you know him??? Why??? Anyway, I hope you think on that one and I have to waste more space to UNDERLINE THAT YOU SHOULD READ THE BIBLE!
"Obviously when the colonialists fled the Catholic Church of Europe they were fleeing persecution and the corruption of the Christian church establishment. Don't get suckered into another thousand years of serfdom and cheek turning." - Well, this is another topic that shows the internal conflicts of Churches that obeyed the Bible and Catholic Churches... Martin Luther is one example. And I used up all the space...
Thank you again for your response and effort in your rebuttal
I do like the gospels of Mathew Mark Luke and John. But those chapters read much better when pedophiles in drag aren't trying to groom children in public places. Love kindness forgiveness are easy to believe in when you live in 1950's white suburbia with zero crime, nuclear families and stay at home mothers raising the chldren.
Look around you. People still in masks. Everyone staring into screens. Baby sacrifices, poison, drugs, eugenics, spraying us like bugs, poison in the food, chemicals in the water, sodomites roaming freely and proudly and targeting children. Jew satanism reigns.
You keep saying READ THE BIBLE as if others haven't. Did I skip over the part where Jesus doesn't get nailed to a tree the first time he goes into a big city?
I do not want to be another sacrificial lamb. It is instinctive in me, and in you, to fight back. Why have you accepted this complacency? This pacifism. Your enemy does not care about your "principles." Just like the democRAT does not care about your logical reasoning. Hell is a place where there is no reason and your noble principles are under a jack boot.
I am telling you, Christian, you must fight back. Perhaps this turn the cheek nonsense has been twisted to submit you? Did you interpret this quote by Jesus incorrectly?
Why this obsession with suffering on the cross? Blood sacrifice? You like to show your children a man being beaten? Forgive them for they know not what they do? But they do know what they do so often, do they not?
Do you teach your child to turn the cheek in school? I teach sons to punch first and then punch back again. When war is inevitable, stop resisting it. The one who tries to avoid the inevitable war the longest is usually the one who loses. By the time they accept they have no choice and they either go to war or war comes to them, they have no time to maneuver into a victorious strategic stance.
Christians have made it easy for the satanic jew to persecute them. Christians have behaved in a manner that begs for persecution. I do not like this self-flagellation. It is a sort of self hatred. No question the modern white guilt complex comes out of this.
The jew worship in the bible is a problem. You know deep down it is off putting. We see how jews behave in real life and it is not as a chosen people. That is unless all jews we perceive today are in fact the synagogue of satan and the real jews are not them. I have not ruled out this possibility. But have you considered the possibility that the Bible is not God's word and is an anthology of religious stories and events?
Why does Jesus call a gentile woman who came to him to help her daughter a dog in Matthew 15:26?
Jesus also says Matthew 15:24, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel"
Only after his ascension does he say make disciples of all nations.
Sometimes I feel like the end part of the story was just modified or they added that on so that the gentile would feel included.
Also, if Jews gave false testimony at the trial of Jesus, then why do Christians allow jews to RUN THE FUCKING JUSTICE DEPARTMENT in 2023?
Also, if jews gave false testimony and demanded EXECUTION of your messiah, why do you let them run your banks and corporations and control your country? Why do you send your white Christian children to go die in Jew provoked wars if these same liars got your messiah murdered?
The mental gymnastics Christians go through to answer these questions is funny. Some old lady in church told me that God chose Jews to fulfill these prophecies to open the eyes of gentiles. LOL So Judas was "a chosen peoples" who you revere? The jews at the boston childrens hospital mutilating white boys genitals in 2023 are fulfilling God's plans? WTF? The Jews at TEVA Pharmaceuticals selling your white christian boy puberty blockers are fulfilling God's plans?
Oh, I get it. You have a bone to pick with Christianity. Let's attempt to resolve that and see if you would really listen or just continue your attacks...
"Why does Jesus call a gentile woman who came to him to help her daughter a dog in Matthew 15:26?" - It's a comparison of someone bred with discipline to someone bred without. Jews, in the old days, have been disciplined. Obviously, not all of them, but their traditions is what saved them to avoid being as reckless as dogs. When a Jew nowadays turns to Christianity, he/she is way more vocal and adamant to preserve people. You must've caught a glimpse of this at least in your lifetime.
"Jesus also says Matthew 15:24, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel" - And so he was.
"Only after his ascension does he say make disciples of all nations." - Correct. If you can imagine what is to be a parent, how would you react when your child comes back angry at you in comparison to coming back regretting the evil and wanting help? Isn't your choice as a parent based on the choice of the child? You think about that for a while.
"Sometimes I feel like the end part of the story was just modified or they added that on so that the gentile would feel included." - That is factually incorrect. All people strive to be good and all people can become Christians. Good moral code is not forbidden to anyone. Well, technically not true for MK Ultra victims but let's leave that for a moment. Oh, actually Cathy O'Brien got saved by Jesus and is the main MK Ultra victim that speaks out. Do you know that? I think you should.
"Also, if Jews gave false testimony at the trial of Jesus, then why do Christians allow jews to RUN THE FUCKING JUSTICE DEPARTMENT in 2023?" - That's way out there... You know people would do something if they could. You blame Christians, when you should blame the Satanists... Cmon... I can allow you to vent, but this is not even remotely logical as an argument as the one you put forth usually. Think it over... Christians don't agree with the justice department. They make it obvious for others that the closest it has to justice is its name. You speak against the Justice Department, should I also blame for not taking it down already? Cmon... weak argument.
"Also, if jews gave false testimony and demanded EXECUTION of your messiah, why do you let them run your banks and corporations and control your country? Why do you send your white Christian children to go die in Jew provoked wars if these same liars got your messiah murdered?" - That's the same as before. You are clearly venting some bottled up emotions. True Christians don't do that. But hate as much as you want the fake Christians - everyone does and should. I am also not a real Christian, I do what I can but I have my flaws and definitely will not go in heaven. But when things get tough, we always like those people with good morals to help us... The truth is that you will find all presented in the Bible as plain as I can never make it. But I guess you read some bits and pieces like myself long time ago and got angry because of the unfairness in the world. Anyway, It's as lame argument as the one before. I will let you rethink that and send in a better way if you want.
"The mental gymnastics Christians go through to answer these questions is funny." - Aaaah, here are the common attacks. :D Yes, MORE INSULTS. That usually helps all arguments everywhere! :D Oh, I knew you would stoop this low.
"Some old lady in church told me that God chose Jews to fulfill these prophecies to open the eyes of gentiles." - Great example. Do you have more old ladies' tales. Because I am here to listen to any explanation you never understood and you are now angry because of it. Please keep them coming. I take notes.
"So Judas was "a chosen peoples" who you revere?" - That's a logic that you invert for yourself. He was clearly not revered. He was punished, as written in the Bible. Not all jews are good. Clearly, again, written in the Bible. Actually, if you read it in full, you will find A LOT of Jews who were against God. A, FUCKING, LOT. But I guess cherry-picking arguments is your thing. Just don't spread it around, please.
"The jews at the boston childrens hospital mutilating white boys genitals in 2023 are fulfilling God's plans? WTF?" - Here's the attacks. No problem, you should only read the New Testament to confirm that the form of "mutilation" is no longer in effect. If you actually read the Moses story, the problem that Jews faced back then was that they were few, and apparently this was a way to make them many as promised to Abraham (whose name means father of many nations). But you will not see that God fulfils his duty and provides many warriors when we need them. You only see the current mutilation and the perversion of Jews and you incorrectly attribute that to God. I will let you feed on your own poison. As many sins I have committed in my life, I would stay away from that one. If you read the Bible, you would see that a tradition that was so far in the past had meaning then, now it doesn't - that's why there is a New Testament.
"The Jews at TEVA Pharmaceuticals selling your white christian boy puberty blockers are fulfilling God's plans?" - Again, Satanists... You seem to call anyone that you don't like a Jew. Are all Jews in pharmaceuticals? Are they really Jews are they hiding behind this because of WWII and can blame anyone who disagrees with them of being anti-semetic? It's sad that you let Satanist's tricks fool you. Yet, you seem like you're using your mental capacity for good. But your anger makes you a slave to your emotions. Not a pretty sight.
I get you though, anger because of the injustice (such as the one that we all feel since we have gathered in this forum to discuss them...), but your direction is incorrect. You get angry of some group of people, while the truth is that the top of every race and creed is involved in the NWO. As angry as you are, I am sure deep down you know this, but don't like to admit it. Jews are the main tool. If you research what the devil does, he always tries to invert what God does. Certainly, the devil would focus on the Jews more than the gentiles. And he got a big portion of them. He got them good. Should we burn all Jews for that? I don't think so. Should I put all the blames of your race on you and treat you as I should treat the worst of your kind? Or would you say "My race does not define me"? Here's a little, how did you call it... "mental gymnastics"...
I grow tired of replying this. It's a very long comment already. If you want a real discussion, leave your anger out of this. I also hate the Jews in majority, but I am not blind to see that many Jews are still doing God's work. They don't get mentioned anywhere, they don't get praise, they even get killed. But the media promotes those fake Jews in power... Fair? Or not fair?
I'll leave you to a quote that you seem to forget or you never read from the Bible: "King James Bible Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. - https://biblehub.com/revelation/3-9.htm"
I guess that's a spoiler that many Satanists call themselves Jews to blend in. Oh, you didn't know that? It was common knowledge 2000 years ago.
I wish I wasn't the person to talk to you about this subject. I am sure someone else would do far better job to explain the justice and truth in the Bible. But you clearly never read it. Cherry-picking from it only makes you confused... There are many versions of it already, Satan wasn't lazy to try to confuse us on that topic. It's only sad that you fall for a trap that is at least 2000 years old. At least to my knowledge.
Final thing - your worst enemies are anger and arrogance. You befriended intelligence too much it seems. You think you are bulletproof at this point. Isn't that fueled by arrogance? There's this saying about anger that I memorized "If you don't master your anger, your anger will master you". Give some time to review the anger you express in your comment, you might be surprised at the amount of twisted things that makes you write. Do you know how I know this? I was you about 5 years ago. Or perhaps 4 years. Actually, it doesn't matter... several years ago I had the same problem with Christianity and the fact that "God allows this". But think about it - without the horrible things that men commit, how would you recognize the wonders that God provides? Anyway, intelligent people often fall for the arrogant trap because they cannot find a worthy opponent. When they do, they often display anger to further their arguments and reach down to petty insults instead of arguments. But I am not a fool, God granted me the knowledge of psychology for that specific reason and I hope many others. God has also granted you intelligence, but it will be a shame to go to the waste of arrogance and anger... They only seek to destroy you. You should be wise not to obey them at this point. They are the main weapons of Satan. Or Jews. Or Justice Department... However you want to call it... Anyway, I have extended to you despite of your anger fits. I have provided a lot of information that you should read from the Bible, not just believe what I said. If you don't do that, I will know for sure from your reply. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
I upvoted you for the effort and time put into your response.
However, I cannot say that I am satisfied with the response. Christianity seems ill equipped to deal with the modern evil of the world. Turning the cheek only promises your demise unto your grave. Your messiah was nailed to a cross and if you continue to turn the cheek your children are going to be persecuted too. Christianity takes glory in persecution just like the black takes joy in crying racism or goblin Greenblatt takes joy in crying holocaust at the ADL.
The churches locked down when government told them to and put masks on when government told them to. You subscribe to a higher God but do whatever the fuck government tells you to?
Muslims would sooner stone a sodomite than a Christian. Yet the Christian looks down upon the Muslim. Yet in the Christian community, transsexual pedophiles dressed in drag perform sexual dances and read gay stories to children in the public library.
Christians believe they are saved by the blood sacrifice of another. Why does God's forgiveness require suffering and pain and murder?
Why are you told to eat the flesh of Jesus? Is this cannibalism? Some more weird occult symbolism? Why are you drinking another man's blood?
Why do Christians pick and choose which parts of the old testament they like/ Some parts are in contradiction to the new testament. The Torah and New Testament are not meant to be together. Doesn't even seem like the same God. A vengeful God of the old testament lets his own son get nailed to a tree int he new testament?
"True Christians don't do that..."
Well who gets to say who is the true Christian? Who isn't? Which of the 500+ denominations is the "true Christian"?
Yes I have bottled up rage and thirst to exact justice. Because Christians haven't been on the fucking job. In white Christian civilization everything devolves into hell rapidly because Christians turn muh cheek. Tolerance is a false virtue taught in christian churches as much as it is through democrat indoctrination centers.
True Christians impale the perpetrators of evil. You end up on a pike before i end up on a cross. No turning the cheek. No waiting for eventual rapture for another thousand years. The time is now. We take back our freedom today. No white hats. No q-tard hopium. No one day Jesus will come back and not be martyred this time.
Would it not be more reverent of God to take action now? If Christianity were a scam, they'd want you to turn the cheek and do nothing for another thousand years.
Obviously when the colonialists fled the Catholic Church of Europe they were fleeing persecution and the corruption of the Christian church establishment. Don't get suckered into another thousand years of serfdom and cheek turning.
Hold on now. I see the same questions I asked when I was questioning Christianity.
Is that really so? Have you seen a person so angry that they to hurt someone less powerful then them, but when they realize that the person is not fighting back (turning the other cheek), something inside them forces them to stop and reevaluate their actions? What I am saying is, are you sure that God's way doesn't actually lead to salvation? Jesus died on the Cross, yet, God could've just killed everyone who hurt him, right? But there was this one centurion (meaning Roman soldier) that pierced Jesus with his spear (to confirm he was dead), and from his body went blood and water??? And the Roman centurion became a believe at that very spot. Who else can bleed water from their body? I know it sounds amazing... but that's what God is - unattainable for us to understand. Beyond our comprehension. Think about it - We were not perfect, but why do we wish for a world that is perfect. We were not pure, yet why do we wish to have a world of purity? We were not truthful, yet why do we wish to have a world of truth?
Jesus died and 2000 years later he is called a KING and people are ready to die for him. Do you make your plans as "I will die for this cause, but perhaps 2000 years from now people around the world - both jews and gentiles will call me king"?
So, sorry for the reply on your first question, but turning the other cheek has proven benefits: It reaches to the person's consciousness... When you don't make them stop, something inside them makes them stop. And they really listen to that voice when you turn the other cheek.
I know it is hard to submit in full to God, I haven't done that... but I am trying. We have all watched those superman, batman, w/e man that have superpowers... meaning they try to imitate God. Isn't the devil the main instrument in creating them? Check the first 2 minutes of this - https://www.bitchute.com/video/vxevo3jsJyKI/ (The intros are 1:10 minutes long, just skip them, bitchute doesn't save a time-stamp)
"Your messiah was nailed to a cross and if you continue to turn the cheek your children are going to be persecuted too." - They were. I will try to reduce my answers to compensate for the long first reply. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGHI-b1fsPM
"Christianity takes glory in persecution just like the black takes joy in crying racism or goblin Greenblatt takes joy in crying holocaust at the ADL." - You confuse the Roman Catholic Church for Actual Christianity. Please study history. Every True Christian knows the Catholic Church is the Anti-Christ written in the Bible. Read the Bible.
"The churches locked down when government told them to and put masks on when government told them to. You subscribe to a higher God but do whatever the fuck government tells you to?" - Christians don't comply to Churches, nor Governments. It is written in the Bible that we should stay away from the multitude. Our Higher God is Great Morals, just like Great Morals is our Higher God. That's what God is! God is the Ultimate Truth, and when I tell a lie, I know I have made a mistake. But when I spot a lie, I know the other person has made a mistake. Do you see my point? God is The Greatest Ideal in Moral Values.
"Muslims would sooner stone a sodomite than a Christian. Yet the Christian looks down upon the Muslim. Yet in the Christian community, transsexual pedophiles dressed in drag perform sexual dances and read gay stories to children in the public library." - You clearly are buying what the media wants to tell you that a Christian is, or what a Muslim is... You never read the Bible or the Quran. I posted recently a video where a Quran and Christian scholar has turned a Muslim away from Christianity... Because he only quoted the twisted texts from the Quran and people are realizing their Moral Values don't align with the Quran. Btw, Muhammed was a Jesuit agent sent in the 7th century to fabricate the wars between the Muslims and the Catholic Church. Early controlled opposition. Very effective, because the land was where Christianity was evolving. Yet, as you can clearly see, unsuccessful. Anyway, long discussion for another time. Research history, the templar/muslim wars, the Bible, and the Quran for more details.
"Christians believe they are saved by the blood sacrifice of another. Why does God's forgiveness require suffering and pain and murder?" - Again, read the Bible. What you suffered in life is not even comparable to what God has suffered from his own children. If I were you, I would keep that tongue behind my teeth before I learn more on the God I dare to insult... Really, read the Bible. I know I am getting annoying with that, but this book is truly magical. The power of the devil comes from that to make you hate the Bible and never read it. Yet, if it is truly the Holy Grimoire, the Truth should leap right at your face. REMEMBER! God wants you to be his child! He cares about you more than any parent has ever cared about you! Don't let the Roman Catholic Church use Guilt to fake a different image of their god... God is loving! He is Merciful! He is Your Father! Just read on Jesus - this is God in the flesh, or Emmanuel a.k.a. "God walks among us".
Life is pain and suffering. You must read the etymology on the word "pathos". It means "suffering". Just like empathy or EM + pathos means the add-suffering of another. Or sympathy, meaning Sym + pathos is the co-suffering or another. If you want to truly point the finger at the ones that made this world a suffering - point it at the Satanists, not God. God created a perfect garden that humans ruined... Humans and the snake. You should really read the Bible. It will make much more sense, if you try to seek sense in it. Not when you try to seek imperfections in it.
"Why are you told to eat the flesh of Jesus? Is this cannibalism? Some more weird occult symbolism? Why are you drinking another man's blood?" - Catholic propaganda. Do you know "Hocus Pocus" comes from Lutherans that disagreed that the bread is the body of Christ and Catholics were making a scam? Just like hocus pocus? I don't have space to explain, please research that additionally.
"Why do Christians pick and choose which parts of the old testament they like/ Some parts are in cont" - Incorrect. I told you already about bad Christians. I am a bad Christian. I don't follow all rules by God. I try to, but they are really hard at times. The ones, who pick are evil. The ones, who feel guilty because they don't follow them, are also evil I guess, but at least they would speak about them.
"True Christians don't do that..." Well who gets to say who is the true Christian? Who isn't? Which of the 500+ denominations is the "true Christian"? - THE BOOK. I haven't underlined that so much? Cmon... I knew you were not reading what I wrote in full. Now you expose yourself. The Book is magic. Are you really unable to test that for one second? Read from the BOOK! Do you expect your eyes to fall out or something? All my arguments can never match the scripture! That's why many Christians will quote the Bible... Well, I don't know it so well to quote it. But are you afraid of the BOOK? If you want to understand what true Christian is - Read From the Book! Please! In the worst case, it is just a book. In the best case, you will find the power and direction in life that you need. I cannot answer these questions about "true Christians". I am not one. I know many would like to say they are ones, but they are not... And the book shows why... We are all trying to be good Christians... Don't expect me to defend the perfect Christians, as I am NOT one of them. I try to be good, but I fall short. Read about Jesus, he was a perfect Christian.
"Yes I have bottled up rage and thirst to exact justice. Because Christians haven't been on the fucking job. In white Christian civilization everything devolves into hell rapidly because Christians turn muh cheek. Tolerance is a false virtue taught in christian churches as much as it is through democrat indoctrination centers." - Do you want me to disagree with that? :D It is the same reason I am trying to force myself to post against common insults to defend the truth... BUT I must disagree with that comment "white Christian civilization"... I would like for you to investigate who was the originator of respecting women more than cattle in history... Of course, Jesus showed the way, but apparently the white Christian civilization followed. Just so you know the topic you speak of... You were born out of a Mother, were you not? Chivalry is a... how did you say it? "white Christian civilization" kind of a thing... Careful. Some of the arguments that you use I can let slide, but some are reaching the line... But you admit that rage, so I can see myself in that situation... Still, I was raised mainly by women, so I kinda take it personally. Just research Chivalry and compare it to other nations. I don't promote white race, I just say that whites are lucky that Jesus's followers chose to walk among them.
"True Christians impale the perpetrators of evil. You end up on a pike before i end up on a cross. No turning the cheek. No waiting for eventual rapture for another thousand years. The time is now. We take back our freedom today. No white hats. No q-tard hopium. No one day Jesus will come back and not be martyred this time." - Incorrect. The Roman Church and the Spanish Inquisition do NOT represent Christianity - READ THE BOOK. Sorry for the caps, but that's my main argument. Jesus stands against those acts, why would you attribute them to God, but fail to see the Satanists behind this plan??
"Would it not be more reverent of God to take action now? If Christianity were a scam, they'd want you to turn the cheek and do nothing for another thousand years." - Careful. I hope to raise some awareness in you that it is not safe to speak about God that you don't understand. I have done this and I fear my judgement on that topic. You seem to speak freely on topic that you never investigated... I have been in your place. I cursed God. I HONESTLY can tell you - don't repeat my mistake. Is a fkin book so hard to read??!?! Please read the Bible before you speak about God you never understood! You speak so freely because you don't expect God to smite you this second... But would you speak freely insults about a Father that Loves you and Waits for your to Return to His Family? Careful, pal. Let's make a deal - you speak against Christianity when you read the Book! Insult Christians, insult me, but before you insult Christianity, the Father, or the Son - you read the book! Deal?!
Christians will just turn the other cheek. God is loving, caring, and patient... should you continue to insult him??? Are you BRAVE for insulting someone who is totally ready to forgive you? Wow, so much power... I've had enough of it! How about you read about the God you so fearlessly insult? Would you insult in the same way the mother that gave birth to you? Seriously. I know you get angry, and I have been at your place, but make less mistakes in a single comment, please! Insult me for not being accurate about Christianity. Insult the fake Christians all around. But to insult God before you know him??? Why??? Anyway, I hope you think on that one and I have to waste more space to UNDERLINE THAT YOU SHOULD READ THE BIBLE!
"Obviously when the colonialists fled the Catholic Church of Europe they were fleeing persecution and the corruption of the Christian church establishment. Don't get suckered into another thousand years of serfdom and cheek turning." - Well, this is another topic that shows the internal conflicts of Churches that obeyed the Bible and Catholic Churches... Martin Luther is one example. And I used up all the space...
Thank you again for your response and effort in your rebuttal
I do like the gospels of Mathew Mark Luke and John. But those chapters read much better when pedophiles in drag aren't trying to groom children in public places. Love kindness forgiveness are easy to believe in when you live in 1950's white suburbia with zero crime, nuclear families and stay at home mothers raising the chldren.
Look around you. People still in masks. Everyone staring into screens. Baby sacrifices, poison, drugs, eugenics, spraying us like bugs, poison in the food, chemicals in the water, sodomites roaming freely and proudly and targeting children. Jew satanism reigns.
You keep saying READ THE BIBLE as if others haven't. Did I skip over the part where Jesus doesn't get nailed to a tree the first time he goes into a big city?
I do not want to be another sacrificial lamb. It is instinctive in me, and in you, to fight back. Why have you accepted this complacency? This pacifism. Your enemy does not care about your "principles." Just like the democRAT does not care about your logical reasoning. Hell is a place where there is no reason and your noble principles are under a jack boot.
I am telling you, Christian, you must fight back. Perhaps this turn the cheek nonsense has been twisted to submit you? Did you interpret this quote by Jesus incorrectly?
Why this obsession with suffering on the cross? Blood sacrifice? You like to show your children a man being beaten? Forgive them for they know not what they do? But they do know what they do so often, do they not?
Do you teach your child to turn the cheek in school? I teach sons to punch first and then punch back again. When war is inevitable, stop resisting it. The one who tries to avoid the inevitable war the longest is usually the one who loses. By the time they accept they have no choice and they either go to war or war comes to them, they have no time to maneuver into a victorious strategic stance.
Christians have made it easy for the satanic jew to persecute them. Christians have behaved in a manner that begs for persecution. I do not like this self-flagellation. It is a sort of self hatred. No question the modern white guilt complex comes out of this.
The jew worship in the bible is a problem. You know deep down it is off putting. We see how jews behave in real life and it is not as a chosen people. That is unless all jews we perceive today are in fact the synagogue of satan and the real jews are not them. I have not ruled out this possibility. But have you considered the possibility that the Bible is not God's word and is an anthology of religious stories and events?