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posted 2 years ago by AlwaysOpen000 2 years ago by AlwaysOpen000 +5 / -6
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– TallestSkil 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Why were there more unvaxxed people in hospitals for covid than vaxxed

Who says there were? Why would you believe there were?

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– GlamourSpork 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The hospital conglomerate I worked for had crazy equations determining Vax status. None of the numbers given make any sense to a sane person. They fiddled with the equations to suit themselves and halfway through just stopped asking about Vax status and made assumptions.

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– deleted -3 points 2 years ago +1 / -4
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– TallestSkil 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

We know very little, honestly. There were zero flu cases for two years, but the Covid cases matched average annual flu cases. Almost no one in any age group died of the sickness—they died of ventilators and the drugs on which they were put. It’s impossible to say how many were hospitalized for it (or not) in the first place, because hospitals got paid for every claimed positive case.

Moreover, we don’t even know if the damn thing was real, given the 1:1 swap for the flu.

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– VeilOfReality 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Yeah we do know that at least some hospitals stopped giving the vaxxed the death protocols while continuing to push them on the uninjected

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– the-new-style 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

There were zero flu cases for two years

because Influenza is not diagnosed, it is estimated from other factors

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19797736/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19453440/

and Canada

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0080481

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– free-will-of-choice 0 points 2 years ago +2 / -2

We know very little

a) KNOWL'EDGE, noun - "perception of that which exists"

b) what if everyone (perceiving) knows everything (perceivable), hence having the opportunity to grow comprehension through adaptation?

c) what if ignoring everything (perceivable) for nothing (suggested) tempts one to comprehend only a "little" throughout ones willing ignorance?

d) what if suggested "we" (plural) tempts perceivable "one" (singular) to ignore self (partial within whole)?

WE the people; WE are the world; WE will rock you; WE are off to see the wizard; WE don't live here no more; WE are all made of stars; WE ain't got nothing yet; WE can work it out; WE better talk this over; WE are not gonna take it; WE belong together; WE built this city; WE told you so; WE love because he first loved us etc.

Why do the few keep suggesting "WE" in the name of (e nomine) the many? Reconsider..."hey fellow white people..." in regard to that.

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– freedomlogic 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I can tell youve never taken a statistics class before ^^. Its rather easy to manipulate the equations to get the end goal you want.

Thats why one of the first things you learn is that statistics cant really tell you anything definitively, its only when its taken in context and fully understood that it provides any real useful data.

I dont think thats happening in this case when they hide numbers and fudge definitions.

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– seventeenfortyfive 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Research your country’s official definition of ‘vaccinated’ vs ‘unvaccinated’.

Were the hospitals filled with people who never had a vaccine? Or were the filled with people classed as ‘unvaccinated’?

Were the hospitals even filled at all?

Research your country’s official definition of ‘with covid’ vs ‘from covid’.

Reconcile.

Here, in the UK, if you’d had 2 doses of the vax, then crashed your motorbike into a tree a week after the second dose, you would be recorded as an unvaccinated covid hospitalisation/death.

Also, here in the UK, the hospitals were far from overwhelmed despite what our media told us. Saw this with my own eyes.

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– free-will-of-choice -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

Info, stats, and news reports on deaths are on both sides

Your consent (belief or disbelief) to suggested information; statistics and news reports shapes both sides of the conflict of reason (belief vs disbelief), which the few then rebranded into vaxxed vs unvaxxed.

I assume they're accurate...

a) ASSU'ME, verb - "to take or take upon one. If differs from receive, in not implying an offer to give."...your assumptions contradict your consent to receive suggested information.

b) to take upon self implies as free will of choice; while consenting to the suggestions of others represents ignoring ones free will of choice for the suggested choices by others.

Only those who suggest can define, redefine and contradict the meaning thereof at will and they utilizes ones consent to the suggested as the power to do so. Ones assumptions afterwards have no power of the suggested, yet corrupt oneself more and more, while reasoning with others.

c) AC'CURATE, adjective -"free from failure"...being free will of choice implies within (life) fall (inception towards death). Failing grows choice.

it depends if the stats can be trusted

Consenting to suggested statistics places one in dependence to the one suggesting, hence becoming a trustee of the one suggesting. The statistics represent the distraction from that, hence tempting one to put ones trust in them, while ignoring to be a trustee of the ones suggesting them.

come to the conclusion

a) introduction (inception) inclusion (life) conclusion (death)

b) the few suggest that reasoning (want vs not want; belief vs disbelief; true vs false; agreement vs disagreement etc.) can be concluded, but it will always result in even more conflicts of reason...because nature keeps moving.

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– DrMarmot 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

One trick was to make the definition of "fully vaccinated" to mean those who were two weeks beyond their second dose. So, anyone admitted to the hospital for reactions to the first dose or within two weeks of the second doses were classified as "unvaccinated."

Sorry I don't have a source for this, and the CDC has since changed the guidelines.

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– freedomlogic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The other trick was classifying any death where someone had covid a positive.

Fell off a ladder and died, and had covid. It was a covid death.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/18/croatian-man-who-died-after-falling-from-ladder-was-killed-by-covid-19/

Had cancer, and fucking died while having covid. It was a covid death. https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/hinshaw-apologizes-after-alberta-mistakenly-reports-14-year-old-s-cancer-death-was-caused-by-covid-19-1.5623489

Oh but you DONT FUCKING DARE. DONT YOU FUCKING DARE COUNT A DEATH AFTER A VACCINE AS A VACCINE DEATH THOUGH.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/post-vaccination-deaths-dont-covid-19-vaccine-deadly/story?id=75524209

How are people so fucking stupid they believe this slop?

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– DrMarmot 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I was answering specifically to why there were more unvaxxed in hospitals early on, but yes, the "trick" you're presenting was a profit-driven inflation of the numbers to foment fear and drive policy.

The power structure is basically doing and saying whatever they want at this point, and barely hiding or apologizing. Thanks for adding that.

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– clemaneuverers 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

https://youtu.be/Dk7HCcmsMiA

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– Jalapeno_gringo 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Good info

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– jack445566778899 1 point 2 years ago +2 / -1

You may also want to ask this over on NNN.

Generally it’s just media propaganda, but also - it goes like this.

Beginning : No significant portion of the population is vaccinated, therefore most people with severe illness in hospital are not vaccinated.

Middle : A significant percentage has now been vaccinated and we see an increase in vaccinated people in hospitals.

End : Either due to complications caused by the “vax” (really, experimental gene therapy forced on an uninformed populous through coercion) or by vaccinating 50%+ of the population (especially the population which was most at risk for severe illness - who were also pushed so much harder to be “vaxxed” wether they liked it or not) suddenly the majority of people with severe illness also testing positive for covid (VERY different than covid being the cause of their hospitalization- massive games were played for media propaganda and hospital profiteering purposes) are vaxxed (as we saw in virtually every country) - voilla.

By the “end” stage above, the propaganda campaign to force “vax” was largely not necessary any more and they simply stopped reporting daily/weekly metrics and/or advertising them widely through mass media as they had been.

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– free-will-of-choice -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

media propaganda

a) to mediate implies from center; to propagate implies through motion.

b) what if each one represents the center (life) of motion (inception towards death)?

c) what if perceivable propagation (process of dying) mediates perceiving (living)?

d) what if suggested "media propaganda" tempts the mediated (perceiving) to ignore propagation (perceivable)?

e) if choice represents the center of a balance based system, then what does it imply to choose to consent to the suggested choices of others? Balancing as choice or following choices...is there a difference?

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– Mrexreturns 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They can say anything.

Had you heard of the hospitals being empty and Government policies LITERALLY forcing hospitals to explode?

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– free-will-of-choice -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

They can say anything.

Does perceivable nature ever utter a word? Are those within nature able to shape suggestible words out of perceivable sound? Could one be tempted to ignore perceivable sound for suggested words? Could those suggesting words "say anything" to describe everything perceivable if one consent to suggested (fiction) over perceivable (reality)?

Does spell-craft imply crafting the spelling of others by suggesting them letters and words to communicate with each other? How could a suggestible letter be shaped without using perceivable symmetry? How could a suggestible word be shaped without using perceivable sound?

What if saying anything represents a temptation to ignore everything unsaid? What if consent to anything said represents suicidal consent to genocidal suggestions? Does ignoring reality (perceivable) for fiction (suggested) destroy oneself, while corrupting ones surrounding?

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– Mrexreturns 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

In Hong Kong, if you get "Covid", you are sent automatically to the hospital or the quarantine camp.

Same with Japan or South Korea.

If you get hit by covid, you only have 2 places to go. Hospital, or Quarantine Camp.

And the sickbeds will NOT be enough to deal with EVERY SINGLE "Covid Patient".

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– freedomlogic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

In canada they shut down alot of surgeries and cancer treatements.

We may never know the true extent of the death toll since its actively being covered up.

Jeez who thought denying people timely medical care would cause a medical crisis. Oh everyone but the fucking people at the top.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-late-stage-cancer-1.6466823

951,000 fewer cancer screenings in Ontario More Canadians could experience late-stage cancer diagnoses in the years ahead, medical experts warn, forecasting a looming crisis tied to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

"We expect to see more advanced stages of presentation over the next couple of years, as well as impacts on cancer treatments," said oncologist Dr. Timothy Hanna, a clinician scientist at the Cancer Research Institute at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont.

In nova scotia, they literally killed a young white male with this stupid shit and I would bet money they took his organs afterwards. I remember reading somewhere that they pumped him full of antibiotics after he was braindead, you would only do that if you cared about keeping the organs.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/kai-matthews-meningitis-emergency-room-suit-courts-1.6516732

These people are criminals.

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– DontPanic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You weren't considered vaxed until 14 days after your second shot.

So any hospitalization during that time for any adverse reaction would be filed as an unvaxed person.

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– DregaN 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

U weren't considering vaxx till after 2 weeks of injection. Many got sick immediately after their shots, were hospitalized and passed away. These were chalked up as unvaxxed.

Not to mention the numbers and stats they skewed.

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– deleted 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1
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– freedomlogic 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Hateful, petty, ignorant, soul less pieces of shit.

It's fucking ironic too, most of them laugh it up and then claim its us anti vaxxers laughing at others misfortune and death. Godamn I dont think anything will wake these people up.

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