As ridiculous as FE seems, prima facie, until it's proven false, I keep my mind open to plausible explanations for why:
A) the moon landings were all fake and we've never "been back"
B) there are no actual photos of the entire earth from space (unless you believe the sizes of the continents are changing by 30-60% every decade or so)
C) the only people on earth that we give billions of dollars to, to go to space, are faking any, let alone much (or all) of the footage, using green screens, parabolic "zero gravity" flights, actual hair spray to make their hair stand up, underwater studios (unless you believe in air bubbles in space)
You might say "but these items have better explanations than FE". Well let's hear those theories also. Let's not shoot down those who are proposing an outlandish, yet mostly comprehensive, theory, one that explains these anomalies as well as a plethora of others, like how did they use radio frequencies that don't even purportedly bounce off the ionosphere to communicate hundreds of miles during WWII, how can the horizon be seen above an item whose entirety should be hidden behind it, why is Antarctica, aside from a tiny portion, entirely off limits to most civilians, how was Felix Baumgartner able to slowly float up to nearly 30 miles without drifting a thousand or more miles because of the earth's rotation, etc.
Suggestions that these things are not even worthy of discussion, on a forum dedicated to conspiracy theories, have to be disingenuous.
Original Research
Let's not also forget that FE researchers are literally the only conspiracy theorists doing original research. These people will buy lasers that cost thousands of dollars, cameras, etc., and go to some large body of water (large lakes, bays, etc.) where they can test their hypothesis with an actual experiment. Everything else I see on here is pure speculation, or videos of interviews involving various professionals with dubious backstories (Malone, etc.).
Does it Matter
Pertaining the "would it even matter" argument, you honestly don't need a lukewarm IQ to imagine how much it would matter, if FE was real.
Principles
Most of us are here because we couldn't speak freely elsewhere, because "hate has no place on our platform" type communist bullshit. Now we're going to make the same kind of rules, especially banning arbitrary content that is desired by a clear majority, on a platform with already-existing mechanisms for getting rid of low quality postd (downvoting, hiding)? If FE posts are banned, this place is no better than TGA, and don't even pretend to be pro constitution when you can't even stand up for free speech about a conspiracy theory in a conspiracy theory forum.
I'm out of here, for good, if FE is banned. Aside from spam, illegal, doxxing, banning has no place on our platform.
Jesus christ. No. What the fuck are you even writing? Are you simple?
FE is not banned. The nays won. Congrats, you idiots.
You'd think axo would have learned how to avoid this sort of tactic...
Clemans is good people and wants what's best for this forum.
I disagree with the banning of any topic here. Spammers should be dealt with, but those engaging in honest discussion should never be shut down. It's not too hard to distinguish between those here in good faith and those who aren't.
True, but you've got to admit its got that familiar smell of the reddit brigade...
Seriously...wut?
Its a pity that moderator instruments on that forum are limited, as moderators abilities themselves.
Ideal solution for apropriate discussion would be to force the opponent to clearly answer for any legitimate ontopic question. Just hiding any messages (but keeping them available for all to check the nature of a person) that do not contain clear answer, may be with lowering some score with every message without answer or any sign of well-known dishonest conversation like changing topic and so on. Same with senseless and malformed questions like "Did you drop drinking wiskey in the morning". But it is too hard to implement that in reality, on that forum, in politics, in media, everywhere.
So, here we are.
However, I had a lot of very interesting useful and pleasant conversations here, with different people even on topics we was not agree on and a lot of original thoughts I never saw anywhere else. It will be sad if that forum will turn into the nest of parrots repeating their narratives without any original thoughts with rare normal people hiding between parrots screaming.
Ban it anyway. I refuse to believe that those were legitimate votes.
I did count at last 16 sock puppets. But the tally after that closely matches the numbers of upvotes on a typical 100% upvoted top post here so is probably pretty accurate. 61 Nays to 44 Yays. The majority of Nays were banging on about free speech and censorship, they are not interested in quality of content or even FE at all. They have likely never even engaged with FE folk. Some actually admit to blocking all FE, but still voted nay to keep it. What kind of logic is that? Jesus, all you can do is laugh I guess, lol.
That’s a complete disqualifier, in my book. Openly stating, “I don’t care about the topic of the vote” and then thinking your vote is going to be counted is nonsense. What’s the count excluding those people who openly stated that?
You are a disqualifier. If Clem listens to you he is an idiot.
nah, you're the retard