There is a dedicated community on this website for Flat Earth [FE] stuff:
https://scored.co/c/flatearthresearch/new
There is no need for FE here on conspiracies IMO. If people want to explore FE they can easily seek it there or elsewhere on the internet.
My position: FE doesn't belong here. I believe the proponents of FE are ruining any chance this forum has to gain a larger following. They are time wasters and trolls who reject logical and reasonable rebuttable of their assertions. If someone disproves their idea they say it's lies and fakery without justification or evidence. If it's tiresome for me it must be annoying for others too, and perhaps it is dissuading lurkers from taking the leap and interacting here. No one should have to spend time wading through FE madness if they didn't seek it out.
My position wont change through argument. That's not what this post is about. I want to know:
Do individual, regular users on Conspiracies support banning FE posts and "discussion" from this forum?
If this motion of mine passes, the FE users would be allowed to stay, but submissions they make claiming the Earth is flat would be removed and result in a 3 day ban.
Comments arguing for FE would be removed too, if they are reported or I see them.
A note on the side bar would be added, making it clear that FE is banned here, and a link to the scored/communities FE community provided.
I think that's fair.
Since voting is easily manipulated, the way we'll decide is this:
Reply below, a top level comment, with either a YAY or NAY
YAY= I want FE banned
NAY= I want FE allowed
1 vote per user
Caveats:
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Any top level comment without a clear YAY or NAY at the beginning of the comment will be removed.
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YAYS or NAYS as a reply to a top level comment will not count and will be removed.
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Provide justification, opinions or suggestions about all this along with your vote, if you like, but place it on a separate line below your YAY or NAY.
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Replying to users is fine too, as long as you yourself have also made a top level comment with a yay or nay.
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If a top level comment is edited, the edit history will be checked and the comment may not count or may be removed.
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We have about 100 regular users/contributors, my estimate, so I hope everyone replies with a YAY or NAY. We'll give it plenty of time to ensure everyone sees this post.
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Upvotes or Downvotes on comments or on this post will be completely ignored
We're counting YAYs or NAYs from individual users only.
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Top level comments without a clear YAY or NAY will be removed.
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Duplicate YAYs or NAYS will be removed.
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Handshake account YAYs or NAYs are welcome, but they will be scrutinized and possibly ignored if they seem like sock-puppets, regardless of how they are voting. This is to ensure the minimum of vote manipulation.
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Older accounts with little to no history - or where their last comment was several months or years ago - will also be scrutinized and may not count.
I reserve the right to edit this post based on interactions and suggestions below. I may not have thought of everything. Edits will be labelled and placed at the end of this text.
EDIT
Vote over
Minus sock-puppet accounts it's 61 Nay, 44 Yay.
Most of the nays are casual, non-contributing users banging on about censorship and free speech who don't give a damn about quality content nor FE. I encourage those users to engage with FE instead of ignoring it. If you did that you would probably come to regret voting to allow it in this forum.
Obviously, you don't see the relevance.
meanwhile u/TallestSkil wishes for the death and loss of other users elsewhere in the forum.
Ya he's infamous for that.
Trying to equate this to 2A is the logical fallacy of false equivalency. I understand the link you're attempting to make, it's just not there. I understand the knee jerk reaction to the OP, it's just not rational. This topic has the overall effect of bringing the level of conversation down to monkeys flinging poop, and not just on this .win. Those against FE wade right into that too. I try to not get involved, but the nastiness spills over to everything else.
By contrast, the head mod at c/FlatEarthResearch is not only a good guy, but he's sincere, knowledgeable, and passionate about the subject. Supporters of FE would only benefit from discussing it with him. After a while of that and armed with better info as well as "disarmed" from an adversarial stance, maybe civility would be restored?
As a separate matter, admin / devs / owners have announced that they'll need to generate some revenue this year, so we should expect some changes to facilitate that. Removing the most obvious sources of nastiness would be a good starting point. I'm not suggesting the idea for this post came from admin, just that the intended result would go nicely with their stated goals.
The link is there.
Losing users, as talkestshil supports, is surely bad for revenue.
The topic is innocent.
Yup, tallSkillet has said he doesn't care if his input destroys the whole platform. Quite an attitude!
I agree the topic of FE is innocent of itself. And I can't speak to this community's recent behavior. I know that FE has brought out the worst of people on both sides and encroached on everything, that's the history. I imagine it hasn't gotten better given a mod raised the issue.
Seems easy to have one post, and whoever wants can discuss it there. That way people who have no interest in discussing it have that choice.
Or, in the long established .win expressly for this topic and with a great mod, for those interested in the topic to become better informed and more skilled at discussing it, then come back here and maybe productive discussion can be had. I don't see why that would be a bad idea?
Not bad ideas at all. Creative and productive solutions like this are as good as gold.
Ultimately, it's the mods call and will have my respect.
Your open dialogue and honest interaction are much appreciated.
Yep. I do. Those who actively support the genocide of my people deserve death. Those who actively promote proven falsehoods, particularly for money, deserve death. Those who simply don’t know any better—and who refuse to learn—deserve banning.
Get. The. Fuck. Over. It. Federal agent.
Hear here talkestshil, who heckles kek'les for the shekels, Ye who mock should watch the clock, for it's a tickin' to the mod's good pickin.