There is a dedicated community on this website for Flat Earth [FE] stuff:
https://scored.co/c/flatearthresearch/new
There is no need for FE here on conspiracies IMO. If people want to explore FE they can easily seek it there or elsewhere on the internet.
My position: FE doesn't belong here. I believe the proponents of FE are ruining any chance this forum has to gain a larger following. They are time wasters and trolls who reject logical and reasonable rebuttable of their assertions. If someone disproves their idea they say it's lies and fakery without justification or evidence. If it's tiresome for me it must be annoying for others too, and perhaps it is dissuading lurkers from taking the leap and interacting here. No one should have to spend time wading through FE madness if they didn't seek it out.
My position wont change through argument. That's not what this post is about. I want to know:
Do individual, regular users on Conspiracies support banning FE posts and "discussion" from this forum?
If this motion of mine passes, the FE users would be allowed to stay, but submissions they make claiming the Earth is flat would be removed and result in a 3 day ban.
Comments arguing for FE would be removed too, if they are reported or I see them.
A note on the side bar would be added, making it clear that FE is banned here, and a link to the scored/communities FE community provided.
I think that's fair.
Since voting is easily manipulated, the way we'll decide is this:
Reply below, a top level comment, with either a YAY or NAY
YAY= I want FE banned
NAY= I want FE allowed
1 vote per user
Caveats:
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Any top level comment without a clear YAY or NAY at the beginning of the comment will be removed.
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YAYS or NAYS as a reply to a top level comment will not count and will be removed.
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Provide justification, opinions or suggestions about all this along with your vote, if you like, but place it on a separate line below your YAY or NAY.
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Replying to users is fine too, as long as you yourself have also made a top level comment with a yay or nay.
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If a top level comment is edited, the edit history will be checked and the comment may not count or may be removed.
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We have about 100 regular users/contributors, my estimate, so I hope everyone replies with a YAY or NAY. We'll give it plenty of time to ensure everyone sees this post.
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Upvotes or Downvotes on comments or on this post will be completely ignored
We're counting YAYs or NAYs from individual users only.
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Top level comments without a clear YAY or NAY will be removed.
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Duplicate YAYs or NAYS will be removed.
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Handshake account YAYs or NAYs are welcome, but they will be scrutinized and possibly ignored if they seem like sock-puppets, regardless of how they are voting. This is to ensure the minimum of vote manipulation.
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Older accounts with little to no history - or where their last comment was several months or years ago - will also be scrutinized and may not count.
I reserve the right to edit this post based on interactions and suggestions below. I may not have thought of everything. Edits will be labelled and placed at the end of this text.
EDIT
Vote over
Minus sock-puppet accounts it's 61 Nay, 44 Yay.
Most of the nays are casual, non-contributing users banging on about censorship and free speech who don't give a damn about quality content nor FE. I encourage those users to engage with FE instead of ignoring it. If you did that you would probably come to regret voting to allow it in this forum.
Fucking nay. Censorship sux
it's not censorship. A link will be provided to the Flat Earth Research community.
That absolutely fits the definition of censorship. Content of any other topic would be governed by upvotes/downvotes/comments, not so with FE.
That would be forum curation: putting the discussions in the relevant place. It is not censorship.
It is censored from this site so yes it is.
Ok. So take your globe cult and leave intelligent people alone.
No. It literally doesn’t. What obligation do we have to allow any off-topic posts here? Are you okay with people spamming posts solely about animals here, even though we have an Animals board?
How about Cars?
How about MGTOW?
How about Technology?
Off topic, it's the mother of conspiracies! It seems like most people here don't by the moonlanding, and they heavily question nasa. Why wouldn't our cosmology be on the table for discussion.
If flat earth is censored on conspiracy.win, how the fuck can anyone claim its promoted byGoogle? There aren't any FEs that have more than a few hundred thousand subscribers. If you search the topic all you get is debunkers.
Animal posts would be fine here if it was a conspiracy in some way. There are conspiracies about car engines that get insane mpg but are covered up to sell more oil. You could make a post about how the courts purposefully favor women. There's all kinds of technology conspiracies like certain technology waves being harmful to the body.
And having the conspiracy theory that the governments and space programs are covering up a flat Earth for some reason is still a legit conspiracy theory, no matter how retarded it is.
Yes, because the topic is beyond retarded and a complete waste of absolutely everyone's time, including those who promote it. The link in the sidebar would be more than fair and more than it deserves.
My time to waste. Why with your censorship? This place is fine without rules, your personal rules. Get it?
Well thanks for admitting it's censorship
retarded to you, but not to the millions who believe the earth is flat
if you are this low iq, how are you even interested in conspiracies?
It’s a speech act, and therefore censorship is fine.
Posting FE garbage is not that different from yelling fire in a theatre.
It’s not restricting your freedom of speech because yelling fire in a theatre is not about speech, it’s an ACTION designed to have destructive effect.
They post FE because of the effect it has on the site (a very negative effect).
Speech act is very different from speech.
People come here to discuss ideas. The disruptive actions of flat earthers hamper those efforts, and purposefully so.
There is no productive conversation to be had with FE shills.
In the words of 'the Dude', "that's just like... your opinion... man."
You are too dumb to talk about this topic. We should ban low iq tards who are holding back humanity instead.
It is censorship
Nope.
Fuck that. You guys sound like a bunch terrified children.
Holy shit a 2 year old handshake!
LMFAO!
🚨 🚨 🚨 REAL USER ALERT 🚨 🚨 🚨
what is that? a handshake account?
Of course it is.
What you suggest is literally the textbook definition of censorship.
Are you censored when you’re told it’s illegal to yell fire in a crowded theatre?
FE is not a legitimate discourse or debate.
It’s a psyop.
Stop defending a psyop.
You're an idiot
Yelling fire when there isn't one causes serious consequences to people and is highly disruptive. Having a conversation about FE does not disrupt anyone's lives through the mere words of saying "the Earth is flat."
Neither is the vast majority of posts on this board.