Idk I get where the contention comes from on both sides with this particular feud, like anyone can celebrate the winter solstice however they'd like but it's dumb for people to say they're celebrating Christmas when they don't even believe in Christ, I have more respect for the weirdass wiccans who at least openly acknowledge that they do their own thing and call it by its own name yule or whatever, same reason I never understood all the "happy holidays" drama like uh yeah if they don't even believe in Christ then clearly they're not celebrating CHRISTmas and it's good to acknowledge that, let them state accurately that they just want to have parties