"51. With my Hawk's head I peck at the eyes of Jesus as he hangs upon the cross." - https://genius.com/Aleister-crowley-the-book-of-the-law-chapter-3-heru-annotated // From Aleister Crowley (a known satanist)
I wonder how many of you know who really Jesus was... Even if you don't want to read the bible (I get it, it's quite long and sometimes very complex to understand), you can notice the changes that occurred during the Roman Empire. You don't sacrifice an animal annually for the "gods", do you? Well, you have Jesus to thank for that.
Did you know that being a gentleman wasn't even a thing before Christianity? Women were treated as cattle. Some countries still treat them like that and you can review how Christian they really are.
I know you are skeptical about Christianity, so I won't even bring up the bible in this discussion. Just rational thinking. Answer this ration question - would you hate a group of people that would die for high moral values? Because Christians were killed as entertainment during the Roman Empire. They later understood that you can't break the spirit of Christians, so they infiltrated it with the Catholic church. (If you need more info on that, research how many years after Jesus was the Roman church created and how).
You can call me whatever you want and the bible is teaching me to forgive you... Isn't that interesting? Today's psychology can prove that "turning the other cheek" is disarming the attacker in most cases. Giving the attacker the freedom to attack is not what they had in mind, thus it will restart their motivation to attack. Interesting how this was known 2000 years ago. Wouldn't that at least peak your interest to what other psychological truths the bible contains?
Alright, let's show the other side as a comparison. We know of secret societies as Templars, Illuminati, Jesuits, Rosicrucians, Masons, Hassassins, etc. Why would groups of angry, greedy people would combine their forces for a plan for a world domination if they don't even live to see it through? Think about it.
And look into yourself. You have moral standards. Don't you hate these satanists because of the injustice they create? Do you share your post or comment because you are trying to preserve the moral standards that you believe in? Aren't you the very answer to the injustice of those evil groups? Even without the bible, you can listen to your inner impulses and decide for yourself what is good and what is not.
Just give the bible an honest shot. Just give yourself an honest shot at prayer. Is the God in the bible asking from you to kill yourself or something like that? Or is he asking from you to care for those around you? You care. You want to share the truth and help someone from this nightmare that the world has become. Then just ask the God of truth to aid you. It's literally that simple.
If you had the key that opens the door the salvation, would you keep it to yourself or share it with others? Everything comes down to this. Would you help someone or make them suffer? There is a god that the satanists worship and it creates a world of nightmares. Could there be a God of truth that will help you when everything seems lost? There is, if you look for him.
And one last thing. I know I shouldn't quote the bible as I said that I will not in this discussion. But let someone find a reasonable explanation for this: "And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark— the name of the beast or the number of its name. Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.…" - https://biblehub.com/revelation/13-17.htm
Why would the satanists expose their plan in the bible?
Do you think Sweden will be so opened for chipping if they read the bible? Do you think people will follow Elon if they read the bible? Do you think we would be in this situation if everyone read the bible?
Even Jesus allowed to be questioned. Yet, his works survive even to this day. As if he knew it...
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:16&version=KJV
Try to find as old translation of New Testament as possible. You will find a lot of interesting things, especially small but important details that was omitted in later translations.
IDK if that is oldest one (seems not, f.e. in 5:47 should be about pagans, not publicans), but here is the point:
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First, Jesus talk about denial of vengeance that was regular thing among jews at the time. Stop vendetta, do not take an eye for eye. And here comes important detail that was omitted later. He talk about smiting right cheek. Just imagine you smiting somebody in right cheek. If you right-handed, as most people, you will do it with right hand, and you could do it only with back of your hand. It's not a fight, it is insult. It is all about stopping vendetta and vengeance tradition among jews of distant past. Do not escalate conflict.
Next - the idea is simple. Be humane and respect even your enemy. There is no any achievement in respecting only your friends or relatives, you do it without effort in any case.
It's all about getting rid of revenge. Revenge gives a little but takes a lot.
As for the fighting evil and protection of yours - there are enough examples in New Testament, from the beating money-changers with scourge in jewish temple, to the highest virtue of fighting to death for your friends. And finally - I came not to send peace, but a sword. How do you think real Christian should use that sword? Hang it on the wall in a house as a feng shui decoration or for some more obvious purpose.
Do you know what St.Niclaus may be more known for you as Santa-Klaus did on one of Great Councils when some heretic tried to push his agenda? He literally punch him into face right before all Council effectively destroying his attempt to push narrative. And he is accounted and honored as Saint by all confessions.
New Testament is not about a obedience and sedation. It is about war with powers that be. You can't win that fight if you will be busy practicising eye for eye tradition with your neighbour.
It's a pity that jews, He was sent to, in attempt to bring to the reason the most degraded tribe at the time, didn't listen Him. And I find wise His proposal to pray for their poor souls while sharpening sword.
PS: The simple example of how you really on the same side with Jesus on that topic - Do you hate vaccinated as they hate us and wish them what they wish us? I think you are not. More probably you just pity them. Isn't that a right thing after all?
Consider the saying, "the meek will inherit the earth." Meek means something like, "has a sword and knows when to keep it sheathed" To have a sword also means to be skilled in its use and strong enough to bear it.
When does the new testament of the Bible tell you that you are allowed to pull the sword from the sheath?
I have read somewhere for the context of those times and Romans, turn other cheek and go the extra mile was trolling your enemy. Not to go directly at your enemy as they would but troll them.
Good point too. Especially if enemy is much stronger. In any case it is better to think a little about bigger picture than to blindly go eye for eye.
Perhaps mercy was looked upon as noble since it was so rare at that time?
Mercy today, like turning a cheek or walking away from a fight, is viewed as cucked and pussy.
If the local school system invites a transsexual to strip dance for first graders, what do those administrators deserve? Turn the cheek? They deserve to be impaled. A public beating to the edge of their lives would be merciful.
Why not? Take your children out of that school, and that's all. F.e. homeschooling, ever heard about it? Spending time with your child, strengthening family ties, learning interesting things together and all that stuff.
Now let's imagine, you did something to that imbeciles. Now you are in jail, your assets paid to that imbeciles as moral compensation, your child is without father and now much more vulnerable to all that crap.
So, what way is preferrable in real life? Not some fantasy where you have an army of brothers to punish school perverts and succesfully fight all those authorities who will come to protect them, but real life taking in account your real abilities.
I think Jesus gives a very wise advice. Meanwhile, in Russia, where we have the version of Christianity that is as close to source as possible, with all that turning the cheek and praying for enemy for real, such bastard who even try to do that in school will be in jail very fast. Guess why.
I perfectly understand anger, but it rarely could be a real solution.
Yep it was to stand in defiance. Romans slapped back handed to say you are less than by turning the cheek they have to slap with the palm stating you are an equal.