Well i was hoping to give a reason to skyrison that was not just “they are lying about space.” Im all for exploration and dying for your ideals if you believe them to be true, but your buddy Galileo rescinded his ideal so he could live and only published before his death. Christians and many others have held onto their beliefs and died for them. Im willing to hear people out but when they dont even have the resolve to defend their belief to death then it makes me question. I dont wish harm on others so calling for blasphemy is something your projecting on me. Questioning someones ideals is not hate it is critical thinking. You think Im edgy and claiming a grand conspiracy. I simply gave two reasons why an elite group would either make up space instead of tell the world its flat. Is there nothing you mistrust? i trust people will do the right thing. I dont necessarily trust all institutions. I still go to the dentist, mechanic. Majority of people in politics, administration are not the smartest people. Practicing scientists who have been in a field should have as much of a say as any administrator as it relates to public policies not just money, administrators and lobbyists. You want progress and enlightenment then as maslow says you need to fulfill humans basic needs, and the only way is to get opinions from scientists in private practice who are doing cutting edge stuff to benefit the advancement of basic human needs. We both have the same size mind so sayinf i have a timy mind means nothing to me. Sticks and stones yada yada. We just use our minds differently. I dont use mine to attack, but to remove obstacles from others path. See the words you use create thoughts, those thoughts create behaviors, those behaviors create character (Lao Tzu) and that creates your world. If you want to change the world start by changing your words. I am so open minded i am willing to change anything i thought was true to something different or tolerate the idea and think about it and say simply say. I dont know. Again you are projecting about having no desire for mankind to excel. Truth be told that is not the ultimate desire. Buddhist believe that humans are riddled with desires: to make money, be happy, excel mankind, etc. even the desire to have no desire is still a desire. So they believe the only true desire is the desire to remove obstacles from others path. I have this desire. Any other desire isnt going to get you to enlightenment or the exceleration of mankind if you dont first look at yourself and figure out if your desire is to put obstacles infront of others by telling all people against your ideals that they are wrong or just tolerate them and maybe have the desire to remove obstacles that may be impeding them from the truth. Have a blessed day.