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posted 3 years ago by GynaNumbaZero 3 years ago by GynaNumbaZero +5 / -0
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– CrazyRussian 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

China build a wall to separate itself from nothern neighbours. They are not very interested in expansion to the north, they don't like climate here. There are much less Chineese in nothern countries, than in warmer one. I think they will just prefer trade than war with Russia.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

And they're flippant allies.

They are not allies. They are trade peer. You don't need to like or be liked with trade peer.

They're probably just sell Russia out again.

When they did it first, to do it again? For the millenias of trade with China all we had was only small border clashes, nothing serious at all.

We perfectly traded with China when nobody know that America exists (including vikings), not even talking about USA. At the same time, western states periodically tried to invade Russia, I think it is a long enough history to make some conclusions.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

To split, you have to be bonded. Russia was never bonded with China. Just trade, good trade (since Silk Road times), but nothing more. Stalin was cold to Mao. so there was no any significant frendship or whatever, since Mao asked Port Arthur back that was given to USSR in exchange to the help in Japan army defeat in Manchuria. Stalin didn't want to give it back. However, Stalin traded equipment and engineers to industrialize China in exchange for goods and workforce. Just business. That "Sino-Soviet split" you probably talk about, happened when Stalin died and Khrushev become a leader. Suddenly, it turned out that this strange Chineese preferred cold Stalin over softer Khrushev. So, Mao dropped growing political relations based on socialism of both countries, but trade never stopped, even in times of small armed conflicts on the border.

Overall, there was no any bonding to split. USSR and China was on their own politically, but continue to trade even in times of conflicts.

IDK, may be that myth of some close frendship between USSR and China is because of both countries was socialist with communist party at top. There was no any close relations between USSR and Yugoslavia or Albania.too, regardless of same political systems.

Socialistic world was not uniform, and there was different relations between countries. In any case, timespan of socialism in both Russia and China is just a tiniy piece in a very long history of trade relations.

PS: Who the fuck downwote your posts? And why? I appreciate your objections and opposition, that is how dialogues born.

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