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World Climate Declaration - There is no climate emergency (clintel.org)
posted 3 years ago by EnoughOfYourLies 3 years ago by EnoughOfYourLies +4 / -0
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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

Natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming … Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are expe­ riencing a period of warming.

There is no warming. Nothing in the last 150 years shows anything but cooling. The entire premise of the document is itself a hoax.

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– Ep0ch -2 points 3 years ago +1 / -3

Tell me is this a hoax? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850

You're saying the temperature is the same. Look at that retreat. Glaciers then, but now there's something else like Anchorage Alaska, what about opposite Anchorage in Russia.

Opposite Anchorage is farmland feeding China, South Korea. What once was freezing cold didn't grow stuff is now fields and fields of agriculture and heavy population centers. Same as Alaska. Frozen much still is, don't get me wrong, and temperatures still plunge. But more is populated and warming much quicker.

Look at that glacial retreat until you find it is everywhere. Everywhere. It as population has gained correlate. Rapidly expanding population agriculture industry have caused significant change to weather systems.

Example documented in history Sweden to Denmark froze, the sea froze, you could walk across it to extents and reasons documented. It does a little bit there in the North for a few miles occasionally, North away from closest point between them. But now it doesn't not in historic ages. Same as the American mid west. Temperatures plummeting real cold yearly when settlers were colonising, now Siberia is melting, the permafrost, and trees growing, wildfires happening, happening in Canada, Siberia, Sweden. All within the last 100 years that retreat. Importantly recently last few decades retreating much quicker.

But there you are saying what?

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– TallestSkil 5 points 3 years ago +7 / -2

Tell me is this a hoax?

Why? It’s irrelevant. They’ve been retreating since before the Industrial revolution began. They’re also growing in places. Mankind has fucking nothing to do with it.

You're saying the temperature is the same.

Yep.

But more is populated and warming much quicker.

But nothing is warming. Global climate runs on a series of cycles. The shortest is 11 years; the longest is 13,000. Barring large-scale black swan events (such as VI6 or higher volcanoes, asteroid impacts, and major changes in solar output), the climate follows these cycles predictably on all mid to long-term scales. ~13,000 years ago, North Africa was wet and verdant. Then the desert crept up to the coast as the last ice age ended. These things happen. Most of Earth’s history was hotter than today. Were the dinosaurs driving too many cars?

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– Ep0ch -2 points 3 years ago +1 / -3

Dude mankind has everything to do with it.

If the first settlers to Alaska froze to death, by the 1000s. Same as Siberia digging the railroads, Norway the same. What went wrong. Humans did. As they populated the weather warmed. The more they've populated the more the weather has warmed. Simply test this theory. In Anchorage the temperature averages higher than in other points of Alaska. So those humans cause, you got it, warming.

Now we add billions of humans since there weren't any in those places. Where you claim the beavers were sipping on pino coladas in the freaking Artic, shedding their fur for the sjws who don't wear it today? What are you claiming?

Once upon a time ago, no, dinosaurs didn't exist, definitely not 13k years ago. They're a fictional creation and an invention, selling monsters to stupid people with gullible imaginations.

But okay you're saying the weather changes. Yes it does. What speeds up weather change. Dinosaurs eating all the trees? No, what? A cycle where the planet is a stop watch and every 13k years it goes pop. That is freaking dumb.

Yes our Sun and cosmic alignment affect the weather. How much do we. All those cities warmer than where there aren't?

Yes I emphatically agree a cycle occurs and without the human it would also occur. Problematic on a changing globe subjective to the seasons, rotation, and alignment. But to state the weather isn't changing, and we aren't another factor affecting it, is ignorant. I don't believe in the solution. I find it ridiculous. I don't think the weather cares. It's absurd, buy climate change, and you too can cause climate change. Seriously they want to change the weather by changing the weather. Hahaha. What went wrong. They just get dumber. Until it's the Mayan sacrifices.

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– the-new-style 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The more they've populated, the more the weather has warmed.

or

The more the weather has warmed, they've populated them more .

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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

Dude mankind has everything to do with it.

Then why is there absolutely no evidence of this.

If the first settlers to Alaska froze to death, by the 1000s. Same as Siberia digging the railroads, Norway the same. What went wrong. Humans did. As they populated the weather warmed.

Nope. The weather warmed, thus they populated. You’re completely wrong.

The more they've populated the more the weather has warmed.

Other way around.

Simply test this theory.

Did. You have nothing to suggest you are correct, and the laws of physics prove you wrong.

In Anchorage the temperature averages higher than in other points of Alaska. So those humans cause, you got it, warming.

Nope. The temperatures are higher, therefore more people moved there.

Where you claim the beavers were sipping on pino coladas in the freaking Artic, shedding their fur for the sjws who don't wear it today? What are you claiming?

Maybe you could find out by reading the posts.

Once upon a time ago, no, dinosaurs didn't exist, definitely not 13k years ago.

No one said they did.

They're a fictional creation

Okay, you’re clinically insane and all of your comments on this subject are dismissed. AGW does not exist. You are repeating lies created by people who want to exterminate the white race. Get yourself in order or never post again.

What speeds up weather change.

Volcanoes, asteroids, the position of the planets within the Sun’s magnetic field…

A cycle where the planet is a stop watch

No one said this.

How much do we.

Not at all.

All those cities warmer than where there aren't?

The cities are in warm places because they’re warm.

Yes I emphatically agree a cycle occurs and without the human it would also occur.

Discussion over. You admit AGW doesnt exist.

But to state the weather isn't changing

No one said this.

and we aren't another factor affecting it

We’re not. We physically cannot. Go to the links.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I linked Glacier retreat.

You linked literally nothing.

Simple cause and affect.

You have not proven that humans caused this to happen.

You haven't provided the proof.

The links are right there.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I have proved it. If the glaciers were there suddenly humans populated where did they go? Where.

You are clinically insane. You have no rational thought. You don't communicate properly. You rearrange what I said and insert bullshit. So I have insulted back. Because you deserve it. There is nothing on this entire planet worse than somebody like you. The way you talk. You are not an authority. You're cherry picking opposing data. It isn't factual. Factual to the obvious causality. Instead you have sat here being the most stupid person anybody could attempt to communicate with.

Proof you scream, I have linked, I have discussed it and numerous changes humans make. Only somehow in the dumbest brain to have graced civilization you respond with crap. Insulting crap. I don't need an idiot mincing my words. But despite it being documented since Egypt, you have ignored. Fertile deltas, desert. Climate change. Temperature change. You haven't studied anything. I am speaking to the clinically dumb. The dumbest. Humans don't cause climate change. A forest fire will tell you otherwise. Deforestation. I chop down those trees what happens. That climate has immediately changed. You fucking nigger. If we get rid of rivers again what happens, without water the land becomes have a guess. Only somehow you think it will keep being the same temperature despite these obvious environmental changes and on a global scale of increasing population.

Go study something you clinically insane nigger.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I have proved it.

I see absolutely nothing linking to anything that proves even the assumptions you have made.

If the glaciers were there suddenly humans populated where did they go?

They melted.

You are clinically insane. You have no rational thought. You don't communicate properly.

Irony.

You rearrange what I said and insert bullshit.

Never happened.

There is nothing on this entire planet worse than somebody like you.

Irony.

You are not an authority.

Irony.

You're cherry picking opposing data.

I directly reported all data from all sources which collect it. You have presented zero data from anyone and are simply repeating hoaxes that you saw on the media.

It isn't factual.

The links are right there.

Factual to the obvious causality.

Anecdotes are not evidence.

Instead you have sat here being the most stupid person anybody could attempt to communicate with.

Irony.

I have linked

Zero links in any of your posts.

But despite it being documented since Egypt, you have ignored. Fertile deltas, desert.

Yep, 15,000 years ago. Zero to do with humans.

You haven't studied anything.

Prove it.

Humans don't cause climate change. A forest fire will tell you otherwise.

  1. You have no idea what the word ‘climate’ means.
  2. You have no idea what we are discussing at all.
  3. Environmentalism ≠ anthropogenic global warming.

I chop down those trees what happens. That climate has immediately changed.

Wrong.

Only somehow you think it will keep being the same temperature

Every single temperature reading from every single source over the last 150 years proves you are wrong, though. Your feelings don’t matter.

Go study something

Every single temperature reading from every single source over the last 150 years proves you are wrong, though. Your feelings don’t matter.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks for admitting you’re paid to post here. Kill yourself, AGW shill.

Land “readings” are diverging from satellite data (which NASA itself says is more accurate and should be the standard instead) because over 40% of land “readings” are estimates made for places without recording equipment. To illustratively do something that the psychopaths love to do, I’ll cherrypick the last 20 years to show that there has been no warming there, despite CO2 continuing to rise. Even using just the satellite record, the world isn’t warming. If we refer back to one of the hottest years in recorded history, we see the difference. Never mind that there have only been ecological benefits to rising CO2.

“Waaaaa! What about the ice caps!”

They’re not melting. They go through cycles. 1974 had less ice than today. Oh, and don’t listen to what scientists say, whatever you do. Nowhere is melting out of turn, not even Greenland (where it has been growing for something like 30 years). Oh, and the ice cores themselves? They show that the past was hotter.

“But the sea level is rising!”

It has been rising for 13,000 years. In that time, it has never risen more slowly than right now. Were our ancestors belching out CO2 faster than we were? Maybe they were farting a lot more. It’s rising more slowly than at any time in that history, and it’s also rising more slowly than any claim made public by any outlet. Here’s the source data for that chart. It’s an FTP link, so it should automatically download the raw file (which you don’t need to worry about, as it’s a bunch of undifferentiated numbers). Turns out that NOAA marks the average as 0.63 mm per year. Not 3.3. Not 2.8. Certainly not a foot per year, which is needed for the most modern public “predictions” about this bullshit.

“But ocean acidity!”

Guess what? It’s also cyclical.

“Okay, not ice caps, but what about the glaciers?”

They’ve been melting since at least the 1780s when we started measuring them. I also have information for the Alps and other areas. Was our pre-industrial civilization responsible for “greenhouse gases” too? There were no glaciers in Europe in the Middle Ages. That’s called the Medieval Warm Period, something your “scientists” have been trying to erase from the record for decades (ironically, since, 1984) because it goes against their narrative. Gee, we must have had even more factories then than we do now… right?

“But but but but but but but but muh consensus! They agree! Because I say they do! That makes what they say true!”

Sorry, there never was any consensus.

“Then why don’t climate change deniers publish papers?”

Because they do (and because papers often aren’t published because the publishing groups are owned by AGW liars).

”So what the hell is this all about?”

The purposeful destruction of the economy and infrastructure of the Western world and only the Western world.

None of the data supports the existence of AGW.

“WAA! IT’S ONLY UNITED STATES TEMPERATURES!”

Because there is no other record of meaningful scientific value anywhere. Only the United States (and parts of Japan) has a temperature record that has been around long enough for climatological statements can be based on it. The GHCND set of stations has slowly been closed down… and what’s this! The stations being closed down ARE FAR FROM THE EQUATOR. What does that mean? The average latitude of GHCND stations IS FIFTEEN FUCKING DEGREES CLOSER TO THE EQUATOR than it used to be. Do you imagine that might raise temperatures? If you answer no, don’t bother answering in the first place.

The United States has a network of 1200+ USHCN stations with data going back to 1895 and earlier. The raw USHCN temperature record shows that there has been a slight cooling since 1920 (see above). USHCN is a subset of GHCND (Global Historical Climatology Network Daily.) Cooling doesn’t suit the needs of your masters, so they cherrypicked a small subset of GHCND stations (which show a large amount of warming since 1920) for use in the global GSN temperature record.

So let’s stop this madness, right? What happens when we take data from SCIENTIFICALLY SOUND SOURCES? That is, 1. stations active for a long time and 2. stations that don’t move (meaning keeping the same latitude). We see what I said above. NO. FUCKING. WARMING.

At the very best (for your delusions), you (meaning your own authorities) can say that there has been zero change since modern recordings began. Your bastard king himself, James Hansen, ADMITTED TO THIS.

"WAAAAAA THE DOCUMENT ENDS IN 1995!"

And yet there has been zero warming SINCE THEN, too, so you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Funny how sea level is identical to 1870 and 1901, huh? (La Jolla and La Jolla; Sydney and Sydney, respectively)? Funny how all the gauges show a 0.63mm/yr rise (which, again, is smaller than at any time in the last 11,000 years). Not 3.3. Not 2.6. Not 1.4. Certainly not “a meter by 2050.”

“But weather is becoming more extreme!”

Nah, less. Universally. What’s more, do you imagine? Not fires. Ha! Not floods.

USGS research has shown no linkage between flooding (either increases or decreases) and the increase in greenhouse gases. Essentially, from USGS long-term streamgage data for sites across the country with no regulation or other changes to the watershed that could influence the streamflow, the data shows no systematic increases in flooding through time.

Not tornadoes. Five (nearly six now) consecutive years of below average events. Not hurricanes. Every single indicator shows they’re not only becoming less frequent, but also less powerful. Not even drought. Hilarious! So what is it? What’s worse? Tell us. Is it anything at all? Anywhere? At any time? No. Of course, this has been known for a while. It’s global cooling’s fault, after all! Oh, wait… NOAA wouldn’t want you to hear this now, would they?

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– Ep0ch 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

A load of bullshit. You're linking that crap from second hand information, and you keep repeating a book you subscribed too. It isn't fact.

It's funny how quick you keep repeating it. It's not even verified. It came from a counter argument out of a subscription service.

You are one dumb nigger.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

A load of bullshit.

Thanks for admitting that everything I posted is verified fact.

You're linking that crap from second hand information

Thanks for admitting that everything I posted is verified fact.

and you keep repeating a book you subscribed too.

Thanks for admitting that everything I posted is verified fact.

It isn't fact.

Thanks for admitting that everything I posted is verified fact.

It's funny how quick you keep repeating it.

Yeah, that’s how truth works, subhuman queer.

It's not even verified.

Thanks for admitting that everything I posted is verified fact.

It came from a counter argument out of a subscription service.

You don’t even know what the words you’re using mean.

You are one dumb nigger.

Thanks for admitting that everything I posted is verified fact.

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