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why is this consistently downvoted? No one wants to discuss the pipeline? TOO BORING for conspiracies, DUMB QUESTION or…? IT WAS UP BY “10“ (LOL), now back to 0..don’t care about upvotes tbc, just wonder about the virality of said subject, why it is put at the bottom of every discussion by bots? 😂 (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by oculusprimenumber 3 years ago by oculusprimenumber +16 / -2
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– HonestTruth 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I did not vote on it, but noone had much to say.

Everything is conjecture and propaganda at this point, we can conceive anything we want and there is no issue speaking on either side.

At the end of the day, everyone knows who did it, who told them to do it and why. It is all pretty much cast in stone long ago. There is no random, nothing is random, everything happens for a reason. The more complex the happening the more in power the reasoning body is.

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– TallestSkil 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Everything is conjecture and propaganda at this point

I mean, it’s pretty damn clear. The US (when I say this, I mean the ZOG controlling the US as a golem) doesn’t want to lose its puppet power over NATO and the EU. Russia was able to get the EU/NATO to do what it wants (at least, to somewhat leave it alone) through the Sword of Damocles that is imported fuel. Now, with Russia unable (not just unwilling) to provide Europe with fuel, Russia has lost its bargaining chip and the US has ensured that EU/NATO will remain its puppet.

Oh, and the US admitted to doing it months ago. So we know exactly what happened and why.

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– HonestTruth 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The total amount of evidence leaning on it being a nato job is enormous. However, I am convinced it does not matter who did it one bit, what matters is that it is done.

This means that neither party will leverage the accomplishment meaningfully one way or the other. Suggesting Russia will not use it to retaliate against nato, zog/nato will not be able to effectively use it against Russia.

It is just a piece of something that happened now.

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– TallestSkil 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

However, I am convinced it does not matter who did it one bit, what matters is that it is done.

Yeah, I can’t accept that.

This means that neither party will leverage the accomplishment meaningfully one way or the other.

How so? Nothing suggests this.

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– HonestTruth 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Well, you may not want to accept it, but you will have to as it is unlikely you will be able to change my opinion.

There is plenty to suggest that there will not be a reference point now or in the future where we can say, this is in retaliation for. No one else will say it, for the claim to be made would be hyperbole.

Basically, this is normal it may be an escalating point in rhetoric and the like, but by itself there is no expected response available in the chain of logic.

More likely it is just another click on the ratchet when it comes to the Russian perspective.

If we see Russia destroy some comparable infrastructure in any region of the world at all, I would be absolutely amazed.

The fact we will continue to see the attacks on ukraine has nothing to do with the pipeline, even if somehow the ukranians themselves are on video doing in the pipelines.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They all had motives. If that's what you mean. But immediately. I am not sure it was a false flag Russian sabotage.

Russia would need some super stealth shit, or the use of UUVs that pass through that sonar grid. Not necessarily impossible, but it's harder than it looks. Look where it happened. There is the possibility of commercial vessels, dragging anchor. Or perhaps bad pipework. But. Who knows until the investigators have, and then well it is what it is. What it is, is a diverted supply. It won't meet current demands, it is also more expensive. But at least staves off the immediate loss.

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– HonestTruth 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Have you no imagination?

They simply drove a lil' robot up each pipe. boom done.

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– Ep0ch 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Maybe. Or it was attacked. By commercial ship, anchor, nets. Or it was faulty pipes. Or by UUV. Or sub. Or even mine.

But robots get detected. What's that film with stuff in the pipes. There have been loads of films with even the Russian pipes. Even Clint Eastwood film and a few James Bonds in the Russian pipes. And many other films. Not this newest one, No. But in others, okay, they have these sensors in them. Sensors in internally. Maybe not in these latest pipes, because they don't use the old tech like, sensors. Because it was a movie and they're Russians. Can't catch James Bond or Eastwood. But they have sensors in the pipes, detecting all sorts of stuff in the various sections at so many intervals. But unless somebody turned off the sensors where the pipe has all the sub stations, if fitted by different countries they have more substations, on the ends for the maintenance, maintenance. You're saying they sent the repair robots down the pipes with bombs.

No, what really happened?

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– HonestTruth 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

lol, it was a joke.

Technically I feel it is feasible.

I think what happened is the obvious most likely thing. The people training in the area setup the scenario and the remote activity was enacted on the timeline, easy pie.

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